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I've been trying to make people aware of Lemmy on discord and Mastodon, but it's always met with resistance citing "the devs are pro authoritarianism tankies." Kbin seems to be picking up steam because of the developer baggage.

Do you feel like this negative perception will hamstring Lemmy's growth?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (21 children)

im just shooting that down outright, what about the devs or the server they run matters? as far as I can tell the software works fine, we can fork and run what we like, its a protocol not a proprietary system.

why are people saying the culture must match the devs? do you adopt the culture of all the devs that make the software you use?

do we all need to list the OS's and software stacks we use so politics are clear?

this is silly.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is just that the lemmygrad and lemmy.ml admins and mods are giving Lemmy as a whole a bad name. The same thing has happened to Mastodon.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Im deeply out of the loop on mastodon. What happened there?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how is this different than r/ ?

even on reddit individual mod teams have had to put measures in place to stem other communities.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is that lemmy.ml is the flagship instance.

It'd be different than saying, for example, r/TheDonald gave Reddit a reputation of being right wing. r/TheDonald clearly had no affiliation with Reddit writ large, while lemmy.ml is the flagship instance of the entire Lemmy project.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • r/TheDonald clearly had no affiliation with Reddit writ large*

proof the marketing works, reddit admins have supported right wing subs and backed brigading for years.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's proof that a community affiliated with the larger project can affect the project's reputation, while a community unaffiliated with the larger project typically does not do so.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

there is no affiliation beyond federation, are either of us here on lemmy.ml? or any of the problematic servers. what people are doing is suggesting that we are all tainted because we are on the same "network"

let me tell you about email.

this is education and marketing more than anything IMO

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 100% marketing, which is what this thread is about, no? Lemmy.ml's moderation practices are bad marketing for the project as a whole.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

def, and please dont take my tone as being directed, if anything the frustration is in once again needing to educate people on how the internet works like we did almost 30 years ago.

we used to have to explain federation every day to users, it was just how things worked.

so how to attach to people on these concepts? bad park and commons analogies go over heads

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you want to stick with lemmy, use lemmy.world - they're rising up.

have to have you try kbin on our instance - readit.buzz - ran by Universeodon.com folks

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm on exploding-heads.com rn, and having a good time so far.

I've messed around with Kbin but the software's federation features aren't working that well, so I'm sticking with Lemmy for now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems weird that more Kbin instances aren't listed on Kbin.pub. You go there, and it seems like you have 5 choices of instances to go to.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's because kbin is only like a month old, so setting it up is a massive headache.

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