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...The approval drew an outcry from members of the “First Wives Advocacy Group,” a coalition of mostly older women who receive permanent alimony and who assert that their lives will be upended without the payments.

“On behalf of the thousands of women who our group represents, we are very disappointed in the governor’s decision to sign the alimony-reform bill. We believe by signing it, he has put older women in a situation which will cause financial devastation. The so-called party of ‘family values’ has just contributed to erosion of the institution of marriage in Florida,” Jan Killilea, a 63-year-old Boca Raton woman who founded the group a decade ago, told The News Service of Florida in a text message Friday.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm kind of torn on this. In a "Leopards ate my face way," the people who voted him in are getting what they voted for. But overall, I'm not sure this is necessarily a bad piece of legislation, from the little of it mentioned here. Obviously it's pretty messy to suddenly change something like this retroactively. But going forward, it seems pretty fair at face value.

This being DeSantis, I assume there's something nasty going on behind the scenes that I haven't figured out yet. Agreeing with him makes me feel all kinds of icky.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I've seen a lot of heated debate on the matter on a lot of sites. To me, it's just an example of people not thinking ahead when they vote for certain candidates. The right wing is very men's rights and very against policies that favor women, like alimony, so something like this new law really shouldn't have been a surprise. That's my hot take anyway

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I am not sure i am fully for alimony. Like child support? Definitely. But alimony is the argument that the spouce, almost exclusively women, are due a certain life style they enjoyed when married at the cost of the one who is working for it. The argument being that a spouse would stay in an abusing relationship because of the fear of losing quality of life. And that assuming that the spouse foregoes a career to raise children is left with low job prospects, and the state would rather not shoulder the burden of a social safety net. And so the working spouse has to pay.

Thats how its been argued to me anyway. I find it not very persuasive. No one is due a quality of life at the expense of other’s. If you divorce, you should toil for your own quality of life. And there should be a comprehensive safety net for those who are too old to hold a job, or can not find one.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's something to say for it if one party gave up work to become a stay at home parent I guess. You're at a pretty severe disadvantage if you need to enter the job market with a significant gap in your resume. So if you consider marriage a contract wherein one person put themselves at a disadvantage to raise the children o the condition that the other would in turn provide for the both of them, you could argue that they're entitled to some form of compensation when that contract is broken. Whether that compensation should be indefinite I leave on the table.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yea this is the reason why I believe alimony should be a thing. The longer you had to put your career on hold the longer the alimony should be.

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