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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (11 children)

First point is definetly a problem in other western democracies. In Sweden there is the "loyalty obligation", which states that you have to -- according to one of the centrist unions here -- "put the interest of the company above your own". It is a strong intrusion in your freedom of speech.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Which of the unions is that? Just so I know which one to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Unionen". I think they focus a lot on like engineers and bosses, and other upper middle class jobs.

I don't think the union is really to blame there, "loyalty obligation", lojalitetsplikt, is afaik a set of laws that really does what Unionen says about it. It's not the union implementing it.

To be frank, I think its quite a refreshingly honest phrasing they are using. A more company-friendly way would be like "we all like to be teamplayers, and that is what the loyalty obligation is all about", or something like that. Now it sounds like "you are the guy on the track in the trolly problem meme, get fucked", and to some degree, fair play to you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From what I could read during my morning fugue state, it seems to me that they're warning you that the contract you signed when getting hired does not allow you to be disloyal to the company as long as you're working for it. I could not find anything about it being an actual law, though I've been wrong before so it wouldn't surprise me if I missed something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Som anställd har du lojalitetsplikt gentemot arbetsgivaren – även under en uppsägningstid. Se upp så att du inte bryter mot LAS eller lagen om företagshemligheter.

Om du då är illojal, kan det betyda att du bryter mot LAS ( Lagen om anställningsskydd)

So it is a colloquial term for those aspects of LAS and lagen om företagshemligheter. Those quotes from Unionen again. There seems to be aspects (the application of this after your employment ends) also regulated in the collective bargening agreements, and those are not laws, that is true.

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