Vegan

306 readers

21 users here now

The vegan place to discuss things.

Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

Resources:

Getting Started

Vegan Cheat Sheet

Animal Products to Avoid

Vegan Company Guide

Vegan Statistics

Fair Trade International

Rules:

Keep discussions civil.
Arguments against veganism will be removed.
No bigotry is allowed - including speciesism, racism, sexism, classism, ableism, castism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
Sealioning will not be entertained.
No promoting of plant based capitalism

founded 6 months ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

If you believe exploiting a conscious AI being would be immoral, please hear me out (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

9 comments fedilink hide all child comments

First, let's define being conscious as at least having a mind that is aware and has a will.

Maybe there's and argument if the being wishes to be used, but the argument I'm going to make is not about that.

The following is said without judgement because it's something I've done for most of my life before noticing and taking action.

If we recognize that a being (organic, silicon based or whatever) with a conscience should not be exploited and used against its will, there is no reason we should not apply the same principle to the animals we exploit and kill daily when we pay for their products. They should have a right to at least not be exploited.

Please take that into consideration and know that you can take action to stop this injustice. Check out the sub for more info and feel free to ask anything in the comments or DM me.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

on the flip side, under what criteria will further utilization of ai become exploitation to the machine and considered an issue in the vegan movement?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

honestly I think this discussion is probably a few decades ahead of our time, and were it not for op I would never raise it in this sub. there will probably come a time, however, when I consider supporting ai rights morally imperative. in any case I agree animal rights are more urgent and real atm.

load more comments (7 replies)