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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (23 children)

What Typescript drama is there? It's fantastic. It's been an industry standard for years. In my anecdotal experience the only people that hate it are juniors who did pure JS at their bootcamp and seniors that have refused to learn anything for the last 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

DHH (guy who founded Ruby on Rails) ripped typescript out of a supporting library and swapped it for JavaScript. He did it in his typical fashion of not allowing discussion and being a dick (PR only open for a couple hours and then merged disregarding all the negative feedback about the change) . So people are mad at him again.

He does stupid shit like this all the time because he’s a fucking knob.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

RoR will always have a special place in my heart, but yeah... DHH sure does have opinions. What possible justification is there for removing it when it's already there? Guess someone could just shift the types out to DT.

Edit: So I read his blog post about it. He's dropping it because he just doesn't like it and he's allowed to not like it. Okay then 🤷

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His blog to me sounds like he did it because it was too difficult for him to understand a few errors. Says it all.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't going to say it, but yes, 100% 😂

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

You only have to read the PR comments with people asking how you know if something is optional when there is absolutely zero jsdoc to know it was idiotic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

From his blog post:

While you may compile dialects into it, you still have to accept the fact that running code in the browser means running JavaScript. So being able to write that, free of any tooling, and free of any strong typing, is a blessing under the circumstances.

By his logic, JS linters are bad because they're tooling that restricts your access to all of Javascript. But linters mean you don't have to read PRs with a fine tooth comb to make sure there's no footguns like using == instead of ===.

Also, you could use that same logic to advocate for writing JVM bytecode directly instead of Java/Kotlin/Scala/Clojure/etc.

The question is really whether tooling pays its way in terms of lower bug rates, code that's easier for coworkers to read, and code that's easier to reason about.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

As a general rule, if DHH says something, the opposite probably has some true merits.

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