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[DISCUSSION] Weekly Discussion Wednesday - "Boys and men have been told from birth on to believe that at some point they must be violent, to prove that they are men" (slrpnk.net)
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This week’s prompt is:

“This is a patriarchal truism that most people in our society want to deny. Whenever women thinkers, especially advocates of feminism, speak about the widespread problem of male violence, folks are eager to stand up and make the point that most men are not violent. They refuse to acknowledge that masses of boys and men have been programmed from birth on to believe that at some point they must be violent, whether psychologically or physically, to prove that they are men.”

― bell hooks, The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the first 30 seconds, Peterson both encourages men to be "competent and dangerous" and says criticizes the young men that commit mass shootings as weak. In the above passage, bell hooks reveals how contradictory that is and how the the need to be competent and dangerous leads to mass shootings. They're the same side of the coin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I don't find Bell Hooks explanation satisfactory either.

Peterson is a jackass but regurgitation of some of the same superficial 90s feminism (which hasn't actually helped the issue of violent young men) is also something to be critiqued.