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And a man who gets in a drunken bar fight is not being violent or doing a crime?
When I asked if a drunk bar fight should land you in a jail cell forever, You said no.
So we established that it's not the assault, as a bar fight involves criminally assaulting someone..... so your argument hinges on rape alone?
So it is of your opinion that any woman who accuses a man of ignoring consent he should be jailed indefinitely?
I think there's an ever so slight difference between punching someone in a bar fight, and murdering someone in cold blood.
Yep, because you shouldn't go to jail forever.
Long time != forever.
Nope, it also hinges on violent assault too. We didn't establish anything, you misread my comment and decided to go off of your own wrong interpretation.
Has the man been convicted of violent rape? Yes? Then yes!
But weren't we talking about violent criminals? I think your shifting your goal post there....
So you're against putting people in prison forever, but you also want people locked away for an indiscriminately long time? Sounds like you don't know what you want....
But a bar fight is a violent assault. You can't have it both ways, you're talking about laws, not vibes.
Ahh, so it has to be violent rape? But, it can't just be violence, or just rape? You're just being pedantic now.
Rape is always violence.
I believe that to be true, but the person I was talking to predicated it differently. I was trying to see if he was preconditioning his claim in a way that would excuse behavior often seen as acceptable by conservative values.