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I've been using mobile internet for last few years and whenever i would try to seed it'd be like 0.2 kb/s at best. I know that it's due to my dynamic IP (or whatever it's called) and i have closed ports.

Then i saw some people say that opening your ports makes your connection better/faster because you're able to connect not only to people with open ports, but closed ones aswell. Does it make sense download-speed-wise? Because how could i take traffic from someone who's unable to seed due to closed ports?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

That's not a dumb question.

So, this question is more how does NAT function. There are different NAT configurations, but basically when you connect to anything behind a router, that router maps a port to be used for the request. Traffic matching its destination on return is then compared against an internal table and sent back through to your device. Opening these ports do not directly increase speed, but they do allow you to join DHT/PeX swarms. If you see an increase in speed its because you are effectively being saturated by connections passively through the swarm.

In a normal situation to connect to these swarms, you would either need to open a port pointing to the port number you configured your torrent application to use thereby making you visible to it, or enable UPnP which dynamically maps ports for the connections to work. Typically, you wouldn't want to enable UPnP as it is then possible to externally query the router and pull a manifest of UPnP advertised devices that exist on your internal network, however.

The problem with opening ports in your router if on a mobile network is that most networks use CGNAT. This is where your router does not hold a publicly routable IP address on the WAN side and instead maps out a single public IP with many (possibly thousands) of other devices. In this case, you would need something like a VPN service that supports port forwards. They would give you a port that they are forwarding for you. You would take that port number and from the device you connected to the VPN from (like your PC) enter that port number into your torrent client's "listening" port field.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Thanks for detailed explanation. Im too dumb for some of it, but i think i mostly understood.
So if i use my mobile network directly through a usd cable to my phone (not a USB 4G modem/router stick) the only way for me to use open ports is VPN? But i doubt it's really worth it for me, since i never use VPN despite living in Russia. GoodbyeDPI does all the work for blocked domains

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, you would have to use a service like a VPN to open ports in that setup. You mentioned you USB tether from your phone. Do Russian providers use datacaps? Datacapping is common in the US, but almost non-existent in other parts of the world like EU territory, so I was curious. For US, it can be bypassed with TTL mangling on 4G LTE networks, but on 5G its a bit trickier and requires a GRE tunnel to be established between the phone and end device. Just curious if you guys have similar issues.

Honestly, the VPN would just be for opening ports for technical reasons, though. Russian VPN anonomity isn't really a thing, but that anonomity is only used to circumvent US copyright law and any international application of US laws (countries have their own copyright laws I understand, but the US does strong-arm countries into adopting more US-centric versions). If your host country does not recognize those things, then I would imagine that becomes a non-issue for you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I pay like 7$/month for unlimited mobile data, but they do datacap and use very scetchy schemes aswell. I live in a countryside and we have 4G, but they offer you something called "pre-5G" for extra 4$. I tried it last month and obviously didn't feel much difference since it's the same 4G with a "higher priority, P2W". But this month i disabled it and now my speeds are so bad during the day. Lots of websites can be laggy and slow from time to time, they're literally forcing you to enable that thing back, even tho it wasn't as bad before i enabled it.

Speed-wise it can easily get 1.2-1.8 MB/s on torrents, so it's not that bad. But watching Twitch or Youtube can sometimes be annoying because connection can be pretty unstable during daylight, at night everything is perfect. And it's not because there's a lot of other people using mobile data in my area, i'm probably the only one who uses my certain provider here. They do deliberately "shape" the speed down for some reason and lots of people on russian forums complain about it.

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