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2020 was... truly unique. It was so hard to stay away from doom scrolling, and I (and many others) were pretty disillusioned by the sad fact that so much of our country legitimately supported the Orange Man. I didn't get a wink of sleep the night of the election because I genuinely considered it to be a make or break decision for America.

My point is that looking back on it, in the end the only real difference I made was at the ballet box. This year I'm going for the Head-in-the-Sand approach. I'm done with the political memes. Done with the Twitter screenshots. It just riles me up and this year I'm gonna do my best to fight that.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

If my two options are a fascist who will end the US and a conservative who will continue favoring the rich, is that really a choice? How is one a success vs the other? Neither one of them or their supporters care about the world I want to live in and both will materially harm me and mine (albeit in different ways). Why should I perpetuate either when I could vote a different way and, at worst, perpetuate the shitty system that has given me no choice?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I don't have words. Trump literally admires Hitler and aspires to be like him. Biden is just a somewhat centrist old guy. See if you can spot the whataboutism

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What, exactly, has Biden done to reverse anything Trump did? What, exactly, has his party done to reverse the changes made? Where’s the rhetoric condemning Trump? Where’s the sense of urgency to reverse course?

You’re not giving me any choices here ergo I’m choosing another option. If that means I’m supporting “the bad” then the experiment has failed and we’re just circling the drain. I can choose to actively support circling the drain or I can try something new. I’m not going to play the old game because it’s already lost.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

The big issue here is that the Biden administration is attempting to play by some old rules the Trump administration and current Republicans ignore. Sure. They’re pushing policy. Where’s the daily executive order undoing something or adding something? Where are the test cases constantly being pushed up like the right is doing? Where is the constant rhetoric to combat the vitriol? Where is the tit-for-tat removal of federal support for states fucking with people? Sure, lots of it will get thrown out. Some of it sticks, though, like blocking Garland’s nomination, and then seven years later you have people on the internet saying the Biden administration, doing fuck all novel, is actually trying to make a stand.

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