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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (6 children)

... Wat.

The science DOES support it and it doesn't concede anything to homophobes. Their whole argument is we have to choose the way we are. We do not because we are born this way. Moreover, we must be born this way as homosexuality exists in other animals as well.

Also the argument does NOT say "it's not my fault." The argument is "I didn't choose this."

Massive difference between what you're suggesting and what's happening.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

The current accepted model involves both genetic and early psycho-developmental factors. There are studies on identical twins that grew up in separate households and the co-inheritance is nowhere near 100%.

My point is, it should not matter whether you were born gay, or not. What matters is, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the way you are.

"Their whole argument is we have to choose the way we are."

That is exactly my point. Let's not pretend their argument is in good faith or in any way truly relevant. Even if it were a choice, it would in absolutely no way detract from the point, there is nothing wrong with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd be interested in learning more about those studies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Here's one. Though I believe this is with twins, who lived together. 65% concordance for monozygotic twins, 30% in heterozygotic. Implying genetics is a significant factor, but not the only factor. (Monozygotic twins have identical DNA)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8494487/

Here's a more recent one:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11058483/

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