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[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago (105 children)

And if it turns out that the accusation Hamas was using the basement as a command post is true, is that the new bottom?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (67 children)

I mean what's worse: using a human shield, or deciding "nah fuck them kids shoot through them anyway."

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (66 children)

What if they were shooting your kids while hiding behind their own? Would you let them keep doing it while insisting that reprisals are off limits?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't proportionality be a thing here? Reprisals would be acceptable if they did not result in a disproportionate loss of innocent civilians. Unfortunately it seems like Palestinian children's lives are much cheaper than Israeli lives. I hate saying it because I think all children deserve protection regardless of the actions of the people in power, be it hamas or idf.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Also the comparision isnt Palestinian children vs Israeli children. It is Palestinian children vs. grown armed men and women aka Soldiers.

Israel could have worked with insurgencies to target Hamas specifically, without having to bomb everything to rubble. That would have risked more soldiers lives though.

So they are weighting their soldiers lifes at a rate of about 200 Palestinains of which 80 are children.

For comparision. In WW2 about 4 Ally soldiers died for one civillian death in the Axis and about 6 Ally civillians, mostly Chinese, Polish, Ukranian and Russian, died for every Axis soldier. So the war of total annhilation, with death squads eradicating entire villages and concentration camps for mass murder still had a much lower rate of civillian to military deaths.

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