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yall are underestimating how much some waiters make. especially if you are conventionally attractive.
Yep which is a good thing. People pretend to hate tipping because of some foo pro-worker stance but it's really because middle income people can't stand the idea of unskilled labor making more than them and having to pay extra for their treats
i half agree. black waiters make significantly less regardless of quality of service so theres clearly some downsides of tipping culture. pooling tips is a kinda solution. having a high hourly wage on top of tipping is ideal.
Agreed, pooling tips should be legally required accross the board
Or, you know, just pay people properly in the first place. If you're going to reach for legislation why target tips?
No it’s because it’s an extremely anti-labor scab movement of Americans and other westoids. These people don’t want to pool tips with back of house, they want to gut the wages for everyone and keep all the tips for the conventionally attractive (white, cis) front of house workers. Otherwise they wouldn’t be using arguments like “we don’t have to pay taxes on tips” because that’s only true if you don’t pool/split tips.
You wouldn’t support pay discrimination based on politeness and conventional attractiveness, but tips come into the suggestion and suddenly you do
You're all over this thread calling the workers scabs when the article says they were asking for a pooled-tip structure. At least read the thing before hurling insults at people
You are right, I read several comments in the thread stating the back-of-house wasn't being included and just assumed they were right. I've deleted the comments and have now read the article. Tipping is still an anti-labor practice that employers love.
Ayyy, no worries and I appreciate you acknowledging the mistake I don't really know enough about the issue to have a very strong opinion on it, I was mainly just annoyed that so few people in the thread seemed to have read the thing they were responding to, but I'm also guilty of that quite often on here! Do you know of anything I can read to get better informed?
I've worked at restaurants that did "pooled tips" that did not include boh in the pool FWTW.
In those places the people who actually make the food don't take home any tips and get paid just above minimum wage.
Lmao, trying to spin this as bougie is hilarious.