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[–] [email protected] 216 points 11 months ago (205 children)

Despite a long track record of anti-LGBTQ+ comments and advocacy, he has insisted he can’t be a hateful person because he’s a Christian.

I think he's got it backwards. He can't be a Christian because he's a hateful person.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 11 months ago (36 children)

Right, this "not a real Christian" bullshit that Christians use to brush away the hateful people and teachings within your religion.

Own up to these people, they're your fellow Christians no matter how much you claim they aren't. Own them and fix them, instead of sweeping them under the rug and claiming they aren't real

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

If they're not following the teachings of the founder of the religion, they're not part of the religion. It's not the No True Scotsman fallacy, because being a part of the religion requires them to do something (repent and love others) which they refuse to do.

Incidentally, I'd love to "fix them," but they don't think that I'm a Christian because I don't worship Trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's very nice, but we've still got to contend with the reality that an entire political party in the US is using Christianity as an excuse to do horrifically evil shit, and a sizeable contingent of everyday people who also claim the label are in support of that. As an outside observer and not a Christian myself, it seems like a semantic distinction that ultimately misses the forest for the trees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, we do have to contend with that. And one thing they are counting on is that the excuse of Christianity carries with it a benefit of the doubt that they can trade on extensively with the "middle ground" Christians who are only supporting them because of the assumption of shared faith. But if we (meaning Christians who see the hypocrisy in their claims) can draw a sharp line of distinction between the two, perhaps we can prove that it was all a sham and turn the middle ground against them as well.

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