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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (23 children)

If you're working from home then ubering everywhere is cheaper than insurance for a new driver and once you put gas plus the cost of the car into the equation I totally understand this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (15 children)

This is an easy thing to say, but ride-sharing apps price gouge ridiculously. Have you done the math on this for the average person's annual needs, or does it just "feel" true? Also I assume your groceries and other regular shopping needs are all getting delivered in this scenario, so need to work all the delivery overhead in annual costs as well. I wish we could get rid of individual cars, but not sure this adds up...

Also, curious on the reality of this in big cities versus more rural areas

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you live within 1 mile of a grocery store you could easily walk, and you don't need anything else on a regular basis. Use a bicycle and 5 miles becomes just as easy. People lived thousands of years without cars. The problem is our cities are built around cars, and they're built poorly because of it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You could easily walk there, yes. But walking back again? With 15kg of groceries? That gets tiresome.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You cooking for a whole gym or what?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You shop daily or what?

A couple of litres of milk, perhaps ditto soda, some canned goods and frozen items ... easily 10 kg. Then add buying in bulk when there's special offers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

If I lived about a mile I could shop daily. That's an effortless walk. On the occasion I buy heavy liquids, backpack or bicycle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Instacart bro. Groceries are the easiest thing to get

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The fact that it feels tiresome is worrying me. That should feel like nothing. 15 kg is not all that much (initially wrote "a joke", didn't realize that might sound disrespectful to some), unless you are either 12, 92, or really out of shape.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Have you tried carrying what equates to a toddler by one hand for 3km? Them plastic bag carrying handle bits are going to be digging into your fingers, friend. These days it won't matter so much of course because the fingers will be frozen anyhow.

Frankly I haven't used a shopping bag for years because I prefer collapsible cases (approx 40x60 cm) but economically those are even worse to carry farth than, say, 50m.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Why would I carry my groceries in a plastic bag or a collapsible box when I can just use a backpack? I can easily carry 15kg in my backpack.

I mostly go shopping with my bike though. I have huge bags that attach to the carrier and that can fit about a week of groceries for two people. I can transport even more with my bike trailer if I need to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I might be a bad example indeed. I carry a lot of things in often quite unusual ways. As a male Paramedic working inner-hospital shifts in a 3000 bed hospital complex, well, there is a lot to carry around. And most things don't have handles either; some resist.

I'm not good with cases, nor shopping bags. I use bags with long handles that I can hang from my shoulders. 12 kg per side won't even make themselves felt.

Boxes are good to carry to a car.

The talk was about 1 km though, not three I believe? I might be wrong.

Anyhow, a good knapsack with a solid bottom. Two bags with long loops. I can carry 35 kg like that easily. In basic training, we carried that load for 20 km and more.

When I got my new barbells recently, I rented a car. My bench and rack I had delivered.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Plastic bags? I just use my backpack

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