Here is my match history for the last few games:
- 7552918956 l primal beast running alone and running into enemy alone, globally muted during game
- 7552902567 l pos 5 pudge abandon
- 7552860133 l mid necro rushes dagon ONLY, gets it at 9 mins with 4 deaths. result: 19-0 enchantress opponent on mid
- 7552767327 l long game, pos 5 grim plays very poorly, worthless items, then abandons
- 7550071221 w played as wd, lost of mistakes, played him like 5 times, team won
- 7549980733 w played as lion, same as above
- 7548787204 w 68 min game, pretty normal and close compared to that
- 7548731357 l 7-16 (lvl7 @10 mins vs lvl10 lc) mid np tping behind towers and feeding, vs 536 stack duel victory lc
- 7548485224 l pos 1 pl barely more nw than a support, dying uselessly a lot, lc afk deffensively farming triangle
- 7548416320 l everyone fed meepo, offlaner didnt know how to play his hero
- 7548356120 l cw pos 1, i wasn't good either but he felt insanely useless and died a lot
- 7548301173 l pos 1 dude was straight out afk from the start
I had more or less (rather less) success before, but in the games I lost I there is always one lc mid rushing khanda, or someone who plays their hero for the first time (believe me, I can go on)
I get someone who griefs nearly every single game, and it makes impossible to have fun during games. Worst part is that I have to play the game till the end even if there is 0 chance of any play. What am I doing wrong? In the past there were multiple occurrences of having a really good winstreak, where my team won pretty hard, and I took a good part of it. Even if it was a loss, it was something to learn from, and I could blame myself for the mistakes I knew I made, and it was somewhat close. Then I got griefers for the next matches till I lost all of my advancements.
I seriously doubt that after having such a good winrates at 1.7k mmr I reach 2k, and the skill difference is that much that I have absolutely 0 chance to win, and suddenly everyone in my team plays insanely bad, or griefs. I get a ton of uncalibrated players who usually play awful in my team
I know that I'm possibly not better then everyone, but it always feels like I'm the only one in the team that knows how to play, and nearly always feel like that I was the best in my team. I know this sounds bad, but prove me otherwise, because at this point I have no idea what to do to stop this.
MatchID Date Periodic Excessive Reports Excessive Abandons Match Count Positive Matches Reported Matches Abandoned Matches Reports Reporting Parties Comms Reports Comms Reporting Parties Commends Behavior Score
7548356120 2024-01-21 16:02:44 GMT Yes No No 15 14 1 0 2 2 0 0 20 11875
7537612880 2024-01-14 16:34:57 GMT Yes No No 15 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 27 12000
7531262752 2024-01-10 18:18:10 GMT Yes No No 15 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 12000
My all-time lowest behavior score was 11767 (since the increase to 12k), my comms score is the same
I've said this before, but I'm still pretty sure that your definition of griefing is absolutely wrong. People have fun playing dota. In the end, it's still a game, even if you think ranked is ultra serious and everyone has to play cookie cutter pro builds, no one else has to think like this. If someone wants to try out rushing Khanda on LC, they don't have to go to unranked with this. If someone wants to rush Dagon because it worked one time, that doesn't mean it'll work another time and they might die 4 times and have no impact. None of this is griefing, it's just people playing bad.
These people might be legend level players if they went good items, but since they try out stupid shit all the time, they are ranked in crusader. That's a completely valid playstyle, everyone can play this game however they like.
I didn't look at any of the games you linked here, but literally each and every description you gave is just people playing badly. Even afk jungling is a poor play, but it can be valid, and running into the enemies alone and dying are also mostly just stubborn mis-plays. God knows I very often go in somewhere and die uselessly.
Same with abandons/afks, abandons are not griefing. People abandon for all kinds of reasons, often external ones that they can "do nothing" about. Their mom called them to dinner, whatever.
The only way to stop this is to stop taking this game so seriously or to stop playing it. You can't control other people's actions. I'm almost 99% sure that if you simply stopped caring about your team playing bad, stop categorizing it as griefing, you'd start winning again.
Your problem is your mindset. You can't make other people play better.
There's never "0 chance to make a play". I played with mid PA and offlane WK yesterday. Offlane WK flamed his support and said "> Good Game, Well Played" and started jungling. Enemy antimage was 15/0/something at a time.
I refused to give up. We caught AM a few times based on my support plays and even teamwiped the enemy multiple times. It was much closer than it had any business to be, and even though we still lost, in a game where the Wraith King just pulls himself a little bit more together or we'd have a proper mid, it might've still been a win.
But if I had said "there's 0 chance" and gave up myself, then it'll always be a loss.
And idk, I personally think it's really fun to always play your best and get creative in the face of severe adversity, even if the adversity is your own team. Honestly it's how I deal with this same thing happening in real life, too. Much too often I feel like we humans are on "the same team" but someone is behaving badly. Just doing the best I personally can in the face of this is how I stay sane.
Those are the exact players I'm mad at, and this is exactly why I say that there were no comeback potential in my games. It's not only hard to execute, but requires teamplay and a complete change of mind of the already griefing players, which won't happen
But there was "comeback potential". It just barely didn't happen because of some misplays. The griefing player did pull themselves together and had their "complete change of mind" once they saw it wasn't totally lost. I have won plenty of those games. If I and the rest of the team had also given up, then yeah, that change of mind wouldn't have happened, and then we'd lost every single one of these games.