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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.
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Interesting, thanks for letting us know
My pleasure. Obviously a community discussing collapse can't stay in a place which denies overshoot of the ecosystem carrying capacity. The Reese paper doesn't say a thing about eugenics.
Okay then, what do you propose we do if you believe we've overshot our carrying capacity?
You mean what to do to improve the average quality of life?
Anti-colonial, anti-hegemonic action. Which I am always happy to discuss. It will just have to occur in a different space.
I don't believe that we've very significantly overshot our global ecosystem carrying capacity. Especially post-fossil. It's a fact outlined in many numbers in thousands of peer reviewed publications.
As to what we could collectively do: sadly, very little. The overall system has almost no degrees of freedom left. You're mostly down to personal and community scale choices. Small things.
Not going to continue to discuss that here though.
why because it's a garbage argument that immediately reveals itself to be bullshit? we could very easily sustain projected populations under a system of more equitable resource distribution and the destruction of the capitalist class
Please continue discussing this here, I wanna see your posts get obliterated from orbit again