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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (48 children)

Too many people believe they can just continue living like they were 30 years ago - if big oil would stop producing stuff and plastics, gas and airplane fuels would not be available anymore then people would riot

Even threatening to increase prices to a level that would make sense to limit the use to absolutely necessary levels would piss off too many people to be a viable option because everyone just wants to believe that it's just for "the others" to change but not for themselves.

Everyone has to act and change their Livestyle...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (38 children)

This is the truth right there. Gas prices went up two measly dollars compared to normal in 2022, and everyone flipped the fuck out. People were prepared to elect Republicans-- fucking Republicans- to office, they were so furious about it.

And don't @ me about "100 corporations are responsible for like 90% of emissions". Who's buying those corporations' goods? Who's refusing to vote for politicians that'll meaningfully regulate these corporations? Who's spending all day fantasizing about Da Revolushun^TM that'll never fucking come (and would kill tens of millions of civilians and likely result in fascists winning and seizing control of your country, if not the whole thing splintering into a bunch of warring fiefdoms controlled by ruthless oligarchs) instead of getting to actual work trying to effect real change in the real world? And I don't mean "direct action" (read: looking edgy and getting photos for the 'gram), I mean actually fucking getting policy passed that'll have a real impact on people's real lives.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Emissions can’t be stopped at the point of consumption.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not immediately but they'll stop producing if people stop buying. Just takes a lot of people to have any meaningful change. And that starts with every single one of us.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that'll never happen, because everyone else will ignore you and just buy the shit anyway.

It NEEDS to be regulatory change. Shaming consumers into not consuming doesn't work. Oil companies want you to think it works, that's why THEY invented the concept of the carbon footprint. To make everyone ignore real solutions that could actually work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"Think globally, act locally" and other such clever slogans that seemed so logical and made so little impact.

How about "round up the heads of oil companies and deliver them to a firing squad?"

Not as much zing to it though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That can never work. You can’t boycott a business into not producing.

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