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The KDE to GNOME should have been "imagine not having standard min max window titlebar buttons by default" with each following DE dunking on GNOME for the same reason.
Seriously, what degenerate thought this was a good idea. Even gesture spamming Mac users still have their standard GUI in case they want to use the mouse like a normal person or idk someone not fluent in computers wants to use the machine without feeling like chopping their hand off.
I fully agree. Why do I have to install gnome-tweaks just to make the UI usable?
Yeah the XFCE dunking of KDE doesn't even make sense these days - a fresh XFCE system has similar memory use to a fresh Plasma desktop with similar features.
(To be clear: the only one of those dunks I actually feel was deserved was the dunk on gnome.)
Honestly the lack of customizability is the least of my worries with Gnome.
Why the FUCK doesn't it have a SYSTEM TRAY without an extension?
Like it's one thing to be minimalistic and opinionated.
It's another thing entirely to opt out of basic system functionality that has been part of every OS since 1997. Like fuck.
Edit: Also how fun that this is how I find out Hyprland is cooked due to internet drama and 4chan bullshit.
After decades of using different window managers, fixing broken configs with major updates, fretting about multi monitor config etc I started using GNOME. It might not look as sleek but I’m a lot more productive now.
In the end I’m just glad we have so many choices.
I went with XFCE for similar reasons. I played with various DEs at one point but after a while I realized I mostly just need an icon to click on to start the application I want to use.
I feel this, Gnome and it's opinionated workflow just "gets out of the way" in my experience
Anyone praising GNOME can be dismissed if they forget to define client-side decorations for their comment.
(this comment was made by The Entire Desktop *nix Ecosystem Except GNOME gang)
KDE has a really nice suite of applications and utilities. No other desktop environment really compares on that level (and Amarok is back!).
XFCE &etc are also good if you are running lightweight hardware (not just old hardware) but still want a desktop environment.
CLI is best for servers and remotely managed/headless systems.
KDE has crazy complex apps like Krita, digiKam, KDEnlive, Kate, Konqueror, etc etc.
They went more minimal and dedicated over time
Amarok -> Elisa, Kasts
Konqueror -> Dolphin, Falkon/"just use Firefox"
I dont get why we have Gwenview, Kolourpaint, Spectacle edit and digiKam though, this feels absurd
wait hyprland is banned from freedesktop? what???
The maintainer is banned - context
Don't know who this person is but I have a hard time taking him seriously calling people children while reading out the emails like I high schooler dishing gossip and dismissing transphobic moderators as a "whoops"
incostimizible
They tried to fix it, but gnome didn't allow to customize the comment
Is this some GUI thing I'm too CLI to understand?
Can someone fill me in about "Hyprland being banned from FreeDesktop"?
It's just a young adult miss managing their community as they learn how to run a big project for the first time.
We all made asses out of our selves when we were young and most of us have outgrown it.
surprise surprise: terminally online risers with 4chan lvl takes export their toxicity to everything they touch. thus get rightly hammered
https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html
Cinnamon is neat. That's it
Cinnamon has become my, "I just need to get work done" DE.
I'm fine messing around with Plasma for my personal machines, but for my work laptop, LMDE with Cinnamon. Super stable, simple, it just works.
I need myself a tilling compositor
What are the icons for?
I know gnome, and the 3 that have their name in the logo (xfce, sway, tty).
I’m going back to Slackware. Can’t keep up with this shit any more.
LXQt: continuation of LXDE with Qt
Hyprland: tiling/floating wayland-only window manager
Sway: same but slower and not controversial
Wayfire: floating/stacking window manager, used in RasperryPiOS
Alacritty: a terminal, in Rust, that lacks all the stuff that Desktop Terminals have, but it is aaaaaacccellerated
KDE is my GOAT
I remember a HackerNews comment by the lead XFCE dev about how KDE was actually better optimized, because they have so many more devs working on it.
Imagine having only one big task (displaying text) and not even supporting ligatures.
