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Trump has 'made clear' he will turn the U.S. military loose on America if re-elected: NYT
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So say we all.
SO SAY WE ALL
Now go spend 32 hours cutting the corners off every piece of paper on the ship.
About as many corners as were cut in the construction of the Galactica.
She was a tough ol' bird that endured far more than what her more modern descendants could hope to. and without any dry docking/repairs/overhauls. Just field repairs.
To bad they ruined the entire show by having it end with them looking at primitive tribals, salivating at the opportunity to use them as breeding stock.
Frack!
ennemies
Wait, which is meant to be serving and protecting the people? Because it isn't the police, and I don't think it's the military.. 🤔
I think in theory the police are meant to. But the 'theory' part of that sentence is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
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The National Guard protects and serves quite a bit after natural disasters. Maybe it's referring to that?
The Coast Guard protects and serves people. Granted, it's usually people who don't know how sailboats work, but it's something at least.
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Small edit for you
~~serves and~~ protects ~~the people~~ property and the value associated with that property
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They've also made it clear they want to cut military and veteran benefits. It's surprising they think the military will be absolutely loyal to them if they try to power grab and go full dictator.
I was a medic in the AF - it was a pretty even split of red and blue. Air Force medical is probably the bluest slice of the military there is, so overall there's definitely a strong lean red, but there's this weird notion of absolution when it comes to the military's political loyalty. Worse case scenario, Trump gets elected and attempts to 'execute order 66' ...the military will implode on itself with infighting, and my money's on one of the troops will take an opportunistic shot at him in accordance with their Oath of Enlistment's promise to defend the constitution against domestic enemies. Officers and civilian federal employees oath has the same language.
Edit - Also, Donald Trump fucking hates us. If anyone 'supports the troops' they'll vote blue.
Also, Donald Trump fucking hates us. If anyone 'supports the troops' they'll vote blue.
Wow! I was expecting a link to one incident but there was a list of many, many unrelated incidents. He really does hate the military.
Thanks for the link!
Yeah his scandal-per-day tactic seemed to work pretty well - keeping up with his bullshit is a full time job, and we literally don't have the mental realestate to keep track.
And it drives me nuts... almost all of those would be a career-ender for a normal politician, but Trump gets away with it again and again because by the time we've processed just how bad one thing is, he's commited 3 or 4 more.
I'm currently in the AF. Can confirm, we're a snapshot of the country. Not some frothing red dog.
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If he loses and tries to claim a stolen election, project 2025 promising a bloodbath will not go well for any of them. Especially since Trump continues to disrespect military personnel at every turn.
I know there are some maga nuts in the ranks, but last I heard most generals have spoken out against the Trumpet crumpet.
Military leadership in the U.S. has always traditionally leaned pro-U.S. If it came down to it there would be fewer Trump allies the higher up you go. Exceptions though, always exceptions.
Trying really hard to not draw parallels with that scene in Winter Soldier where it's announced that some agents are Hydra while some are SHIELD and they turn on one another.
Edit - Also, Donald Trump fucking hates us. If anyone 'supports the troops' they'll vote blue.
Yeah, but nobody who goes out of their way to advertise that they "support the troops" actually gives a shit about them. It's always been jingoistic performative nonsense.
I tried Mission BBQ one time and their jingoism was just absurd. Their notion of supporting the troops is delivering barbecue in a Hummer and selling $2 plastic cups with (some of) the proceeds going to veterans in some vague way. Of course their worst crime is that their barbecue sucks.
My impression has been that the USA air force is perhaps the branch of the armed forces that is most controlled by high ranking evangelicals. Is there any reality basis to this belief?
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To highlight just how bad cutting VA benefits would be, only 18% of veterans get the benefits they're entitled to.
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He already did this in Portland once:https://journals.library.columbia.edu/index.php/bioethics/article/view/6765
As [New York Times] wrote, during his one term, the former president argued on multiple occasions to deploy military personnel to shut down protests and take control of the border. During a second term, he is not expected to have advisors pushing back.
The report notes, " ... as he has sought a return to power, he has made clear that he intends to use the military for a range of domestic law enforcement purposes," adding, "During his time out of power, allies of Mr. Trump have worked on policy papers to provide legal justifications for the former president’s intent to use the military to enforce the law domestically."
Alex Jones fixated on Posse Comitatus at the tail end of W's second term and Obama's first term, melding it with the idea that FEMA was ready to incarcerate millions of Americans in concentration camps after taking away hundreds of millions of guns, and turn cities into walled off, controlled ingress/egress zones akin to a prequel to Escape From New York.
And now here we are a decade+ after that, with him having been on the ground for and whipping people into an actual insurrection, supporting a fascist who seems to want to actually do things approaching fairly close to his fever dreams of years past, invoking what was once a huge piece of his 'plan for total enslavement' or whatever he called it.
Yeah, Alex Jones was actually right on some of the weirdo extremist things he was claiming being planned, it's just that he was part of those plans to begin with.
Once again, it was all projection.
One of the problems with having your "truth tellers" rely on commercial sales to get the news out. Jones went from a guy who would mainstream generic fringe views of every conceivable quality to a guy who exclusively dealt in far-right conspiracy theories because that's where the money was at.
Joe Rogan is on a similar arc. The longer he churns out episodes, the more fascist his guests and his "common sense" views become. And then you look at his advertisers...
It's the same way with all the preppers and the people stockpiling an arsenal because "government comin' to get ya". For the most part, these are the people that will gleefully take up arms against their own countrymen if they are given the go-ahead from a fascist government. They won't fight against a fascist government.
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Reminder that this shit isn't new with him
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/09/1097517470/trump-esper-book-defense-secretary
So now that NYT has taken the gloves off for trump, I guess it's even more clear that all that soft pedaling before was just because they wanted Biden out. 🤔
The "if" of his election fades more everytime he speaks
Just don't get complacent. Vote. Help others vote. Drag them to the voting place if you need to. Promise them cake. Whatever it takes.
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I still maintain that my right to arms should include a Javelin and assortment of anti-aircraft armaments.
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