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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (64 children)

That's an odd way to spell "what the insatiable greed of like seven corporations has done to us."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

New York times being new York times

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I'm only in my thirties. I don't really think I had like..... A huge hand in all this.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well it can't be the billionaires or the boomers, so it must be your fault.

This is what late stage capitalists actually believe

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

We should still try to do something, because it can become worse. So it's still an actual problem to make other people believe it's a thing...

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

IT WAS YOU STUPID MILNELLIALS AND YOUR GOSH DAMNED AVOCATO TOAST^/s

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find articles like this so frustrating. It feels like it is aimed at being a wake-up call to the reader, but at the same time offers no solutions, no advice and still lays the blame at the feet of the average person for not doing enough. "What we have done to ourselves" is not advocate enough I guess?

Perhaps I'm not the target audience for the article. I grew up in an environmentally conscious home we'll before it was trendy and have been worried about climate change for as long as I can remember. It's hard to see an article like this as anything other than an effort to drive traffic...

I'd be happy to hear what others got out of the article if it was more positive than my read of it.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Climate despair is the new climate denial, and these doomer editorials are oil industry propaganda pivoting.

If we can't do anything about it then nothing has to change and rich people keep getting everything they want.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (8 children)

My parents always act surprised when I tell them I don't think I'd want to have children.... Maybe I'm being negative, but if I had to guess this is only going to get worse and will never be fixed. I genuinely don't believe the next generation is going to have a decent future ahead of them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

As soon we start worrying about things other than money, we might actually have a chance, but as I get older I have more and more doubt that'll happen.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (13 children)

we didn't do shit. big oil companies on the other hand...

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pretty bad doomerism takes here.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel it's time for people that care to start moving on the the acceptance phase of our future. Whether that is beginning to accept austerity in what we eat/wear/do and wait for the collective "we" to join us when they need to adapt more rapidly than we chose to, or if we give in and join the "it's already too late, let it burn" side.

I try to stay positive, because I've always tried to conserve and be responsible, so it isn't too bad, but I feel bad for the next generation or 2 at least. They asked for this even less than we did. But I feel the sooner we get on acting like this is a done deal the better, because most people aren't going to care until they're hurting.

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