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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Hopefully the stable version will become a competitor to Linux Mint

[–] [email protected] 134 points 3 days ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I can’t believe they used this as a pro for their distro…

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I am currently only on Linux on my Steam Deck and I do have two RPi's (though I don't actively use them) so I don't have personal current knowledge of differences between Snap, Flatpak, and App Image beyond that A: Snap always brings up lots and lots of hate in comments and B: is from Canonical.

But is it possible that they might choose to use Snap for having more program options due to Ubuntu being such a "mainstream" distro? I know lots and lots of programs do release Flatpaks, but are there more of them or does Snap have more? Real question since I am aware of how heated some threads get with folks being really "fuck Snap" or "it is fine." Mostly just curious since I am more and more likely to move my main PC to Linux as my main OS after Windows 10 is dead.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Snap doesn't just bring lots of hate in comments it also brings a lot of bloat in your system which is a big no in Linux community. Another thing is canonical is going out of their way to force snap. In Ubuntu even if you do apt install it is installing snap packages.

I'm not sure if there are more snap packages than flatpaks or .deb/.rpm but most Linux users are competent enough to either add custom repos or follow simple build instructions to build from source.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But flatpak also brings a lot of bloat. That's the point of these 2 formats. You are trading bloat for portability.

The question here is not which one but why not both[*]? Also the target audience for this distro doesn't know how to add repos, that's the point of it.

[*] the answer is that Snap Store has had malware in it multiple times but that could imo be solved by a disclaimer

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

It says possibly snap, so we can hope...

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Burn Snap out of there and I'm in.

Edit: looks like they're not putting much towards snaps, it's mostly Flatpak and systemd-sysext. I'm good with that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I like that snap support is included. You can't easily add it to immutable distros and there is still some software out there only easily available via snaps.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

If it's only there like in KDE Neon, I'm fine with it. I don't want any of my distro apps to come as Snaps though.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 days ago

I use Karch, btw.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The distro is designed to be a bulletproof, highly user-friendly operating system that showcases the best of KDE technology—a system that KDE can confidently recommend to casual users and hardware manufacturers.

So it looks like there will finally be a distribution that Windows, Mac, and ChromeOS users can jump to and just start using without having to learn much and with a much better and more familiar GUI than GNOME.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think you're exactly right, honestly I think this has potential to be huge. Whether we like it or not, in order for a lot of mid-level savvy users to feel comfortable switching over they need a "default" option (like joining mastodon.social) to get their feet wet. A distro specifically built for KDE I think could appeal to a lot of people.

EDIT: Also for the people buying laptops in businesses and schools obv

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This article is far too hypey. One dude has started this initiative and needs people to work on his concept to get it off the ground. I'm not opposed to a red-hat free immutable system, but this one is so far from maturity this article is selling a first drawing like an almost finished product. Remind me in two years how this went.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Harald, the main architect behind it is already running it as his daily driver. Many others (myself included) are already testing it in VMs and on spare hardware with only very minor papercut issues to be resolved.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Alright I am installing this

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