this post was submitted on 04 Nov 2024

311 points (99.7% liked)

Linux

5174 readers

547 users here now

A community for everything relating to the linux operating system

Also check out [email protected]

Original icon base courtesy of [email protected] and The GIMP

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

311

Linux Mint and Framework Laptops Join Forces (linuxiac.com)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

28 comments fedilink hide all child comments

all 29 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] ky56 2 points 4 hours ago

Hopefully this means coreboot support finally.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

This partnership makes a lot of sense.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Far from my distro of choice but better compatibility with one distro usually translates to similar improvements on the others.
I'm very interested in the framework laptops, a 14" UHD touchscreen one would be an instant buy, the current lineup is still tempting nonetheless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

I feel similar but with a 16-17” 3K resolution. Honestly it’s the biggest thing keeping me away from a Linux laptop and in my ancient 15” MacBook Pro.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

That’s the beauty of Linux. The tide raises all ships.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Agreed, a slight bump to 14" would be welcome. And maybe a more modern looking bottom shell, even for existing upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I like the prospect of more Linux hardware hitting the market with officially supported distros. The European Union should be funding this kind of stuff to supplant Microsoft within its borders.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Imagine all the innovation if they did that!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

agreed

[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago

Direct link: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4762

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Good stuff good stuff. Have been a Mac user for years now. But the Framework laptops sure are tempting. Then it will be Linux all the way. More free and more sustainable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I have had gone Mac because framework wasn't selling in my country, but got an email about two weeks back that they started selling here too, so once my macbook dies or becomes too slow I will be buying a framework

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hopefully Apple will be forced to become repairable again like during pre-2015.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

Don't hold your breath

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Oh yeah, with my 2008 MBP I have had replaced multiple parts and the screen. To try that now is a fools errand.

[+] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

[deleted]

[–] [email protected] 30 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In my experience, installing Linux Mint onto just about anything is trivial. IMO, the learning curve is more about using a different operating system than it being pre-installed.

That said, as long as you have a preconfigured distro like Linux Mint I think it's about as easy to use as Windows or Mac. The main difference is that people are already used to how Windows or Macs work, and have forgotten there's plenty of jank that they've learned to avoid. There are still things Linux could improve on w/r/t new user experience but I think the gap is getting smaller every year.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Tbh, using Linux Mint feels really familiar and most software you can just install from the software center. In many ways it's easier than setting up Windows. Sure, there are some specifics but for just every day use, there is not much of it.

I put off trying Linux for months, only to find it's not really much change at all. I even at one point had to buy new Windows license because I was not in a place where I had capacity to fiddle with new stuff and it was such an unnecessary and huge mistake. Finally bitnthe bullet a couple of months after and I didn't boot to Windows for months now - and the transition was super smooth. I changed my primary boot drive from Win to Mint very shortly after the transition.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago

if I have to do it all myself by following esoteric texts on the internet and pray to the silicon gods that everything works then I'm not gonna bother.

There's more to Linux than arch. Mint, along with many others, is just as easy to install as windows.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago

Linux Mint is easier than windows for basic shit, it pretty much has an app store for all your software needs ready to go too.

This month was my first move to linux and while I dont particularly no why I did it or where to go from here, it is definitely not a usability issue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Friend, I am no Linux shill, but I switched to Mint last week on my secondary laptop, and let me tell you, it's kinda cash and pretty easy.

I had to verify the integrity and authenticity of the Mint download itself, but it's straightforward and tells you how to do that. Once you're done, you install the OS just like you would with Windows.

Full disclosure, I don't use the laptop for much, so no fiddling needed for me.

Edit: I guess I am shilling it, but I mean I'm not a Linux fanboy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The news of arch with valve and mint with framework brings a smile to my face.

Preinstalled linux will become more common place.

[–] ryannathans 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

System76 with extra steps, both even being ubuntu based

[+] [email protected] -13 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Of all the distros out there, they went with Mint?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

I am semi-literate in "computers". That means I can build my own PC, do no coding, but manage to troubleshoot most things by sheer stubborness, search and the odd question on a "forum" In other words not afraid of tech.

I can't be bothered to sift through endless overengineered BS for a PC to do the few things I need it to do these days. Web browser, Steam and streaming, while not scraping every ounce of personal data and sending it to various entities for nefarious purposes. I have Mint, it works out of the box and I don't have to tinker with it, but enough customizability if I want to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What's wrong with Mint?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Uses the heavily deprecated XOrg display manager. XOrg has no isolation of windows from each other, meaning any app can record your screen without notice. All XOrg apps can also log keyboard presses arbitrarily. Since all apps share the same display server, they can easy correlate keypresses (text) with what app it is entered in, kinda like Windows Recall. Cinnamon, Mate, and XFCE all use XOrg. Cinnamon still doesnt default to Wayland.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Sure but Xorg has been like that forever and until recently distros started to default Wayland because of Nvidia, and there aren't many of them yet. Also some programs don't run well with Xwayland, some don't run at all. You're right from a technical privacy point but it's not the end of the world and it doesn't have to be privacy-invading, just don't run proprietary stuff. By the way, CInnamon will switch to Wayland, when the experimental support is mature enough. Don't know about MATE of XFCE.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

They have a similar partnership with Fedora