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Business says it doesn’t serve anyone who is armed

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[–] [email protected] 234 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Private business, police are not a protected class, the end.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 181 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol! "Bigoted and discriminatory"! As if they were born a cop, had no choice to be anything other that a cop, and could never be without a uniform or a weapon. Fuck 'em.

My partner was a charge nurse on a psych ward for 16 years. Many of her interactions with police were as follows:

POLICE: buzzes the desk
My Parnter: Yes?
P: This is officer so-and-so with the so-and-so police department. We have a warrant for the arrest of a patient on your ward. Let us in.
MP: Okay, but this is a secure ward and firearms are not allowed. Surrender your weapons at the security office and I'll grant you access to make your arrest when you return.
P: I'M NOT SURRENDERING MY WEAPON!
MP: Well, then can't enter this ward.
end of conversation

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They also have to check their guns when they go into places like prisons, so those guys are just idiots.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but that's to their friends; not people who should be obeying their instructions without question like the peasants they are.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"We ban firearms in this establishment."
"WE're cops!"
"Got a warrant? Otherwise, you're violating our rules and regulations and we ask you to leave."

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Better yet, have them arrested for trespassing. LMAO

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (9 children)

you can try.... I've actually been there. Sort of.

Used to work contract security. my client was next to a MLB ball field- their parking lot literally was next to the service entrance, so the various staff that weren't special (concessions, security, etc,) would park there. A lot of their ball game security are moonlighting cops or retired cops... they liked to tail gate after the game.... but the city would revoke the license for running a parking lot if we allowed alcohol.

Getting drunken cops to leave your property when the other cops tried to be like "what's the harm," etc is no good.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fun story time... a couple of friends of mine were walking home after a night of drinking and some cops pull over and get out and say, "two white men in dark clothes just robbed the gas station down the road and you fit that description." One friend said, "you're two white men in dark clothes so you fit that description too. I'm going to have to make a citizen's arrest." My other friend said the cuffs got put on them at light speed. They got charged with public intoxication. We don't know if the two white men in dark clothes were ever caught.

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[–] [email protected] 143 points 1 year ago (30 children)

something something gay wedding cake. Last I checked LEO isn't a protected class. And they aren't even denying LEO, just those that come in on-duty and are armed. So yeah, get fucked pigs.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What are the odds that the police take this snub badly and do something petty and vindictive in return?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That Oregon bakery who refused to sell to a gay wedding ended up winning in the appeal, so if you can say “no gays” you can say “no ______”

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They didn't actually win. It had the some procedural non-decision that the Colorado bakery case had (i.e. the regulator failed to be sufficiently neutral). They got fined again and that is being appealed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_v._Oregon_Bureau_of_Labor_and_Industries

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Police aren't a race, orientation or protected class. A cop can in fact remove his gun and uniform, it's not attached to his skin

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This policy doesn't seem weird to me at all, but I'm Canadian. I've seen establishments that don't allow weapons on site. So except in emergency situations, police officers need to secure their weapon before they enter the store (I think they put them in the gun locker in the trunk of their car?).

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If its legal for someone to hypothetically not create a wedding announcement website for gay people because she doesn't want to serve those kinds of people, then there should be nothing wrong with not wanting to serve armed cops.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-web-designer-refused-work-sex-weddings-rcna68629

Baking food and making coffee could be argued to be every bit as "creative" as a website can be if the lawyer is good enough.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

One is outright discrimination based on sexual orientation. The other is simply a policy applied to all patrons.

It should absolutely be legal to say 'no shoes no service' or 'has gun no service' even if it was not legal to discriminate based on sexual orientation/race/gender/etc. They aren't at all the same thing.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

cops arnt even people so dont see the prob at all

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

odds on there being an 'incident' at that location in the near future, and the cops responding stop at dunkin' for coffee and a donut while on the way there....?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

There are only two Dunkin Donuts in SF. Mainly because they are terrible donuts.

So, basically 0.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Does this police chief have beef with the MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, and every other major sports organization?

None of them allow firearms on site unless you are on duty

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Sure, they should be able to turn anyone away, no questions asked.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You might be interested to know that cops, judges, politicians, and all other government officials don't actually have Qualified Immunity according to the full text of section 1983 of the federal code. The SCOTUS wasn't handed the full text in 1982 when they heard Harlow V Fitzgerald. The text was changed illegally in 1874 by one guy when he copied the 1871 Congressional Record into the Federal Register.

Look up "16 crucial words that went missing from a landmark civil rights law" for more info.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html

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