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My first idea was to use the Gitea instance of the Free Software Foundation Europe, but T&Cs strongly encourage only projects with direct relation to the FSFE activities, so personal projects don't seem welcome.

The first-party Gitea platform seems to be in risk of becoming for-profit.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://codeberg.org/

FLOSS dedicated Git hosting in Germany, it's a Gitea instance AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, that sounds like it hits the spot. I'll read up on them. Happy to hear testimonials for existing users.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

CI/CD is work-in-progress. Aside from that, it's working perfectly for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not really gitea but forgejo which a softfork of gitea

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Codeberg is run by a German non-profit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've seen many people use Codeberg recently.

If you are willing to self-host and are scared of the gitea license shake-up, use forgejo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you are willing to self-host and are scared of the gitea license shake-up, use forgejo.

When it comes to self-hosting, there's also the costs. Hosting providers have been hitting me with price hikes one after another this year, so I'm looking into shutting down some servers instead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I host it on a raspberry pi with 2 GB RAM for myself. The only challenge with it is because I do hundreds of repo mirrors, basically a local archive of public repos on other code forges that I found useful to have

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I pay $12 per year for my vps...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Https://Hostvds.com ... There are a bunch of others similarly priced ones though.... I think it has 1gb ram, 10gb hdd, IP address, etc... Its enough to run a wordpress woocommerce store

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any suggestions for where I can read up on the licensing troubles?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can recommend Sourcehut, it's still free right now: sourcehut.org You will need to learn how to use Git with email, but that isn't a bad skill to have anyway, so why not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can give it a shot, certainly. One of the main contributors behind it is in my RSS reader so there's some name recognition there. Future pricing is not final though, so I can't budget for it before committing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I second Sourcehut. I liked it so much, I started paying for it a couple of years ago.

The CI works really well, and the parts are slowly (but continuously) becoming more integrated and cohesive.

The features I like best may, however, be anti-features to others. The web interfaces are spartan (and correspondingly lightweight). Many interactions require more esoteric workflows - such as the aforementioned "PRs via email." You could self-host the entire suite, if you wanted, and there's almost no possibility for vendor lock-in... I guess there's no real downside to that one. And Drew is a Character, which is fun if you agree with him on many things, which I do, but could be annoying if you don't.

I am a happy subscriber, FWIW.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might not be a solution for everyone, but you can self host a git repository on your static site!

stagit is a static git site generator. It is lean, you can self host it even of the cheapest of shared hosting and it makes code browseable via html, which is a plus for sharing and receiving suggestions/contributions.

For a relatively small, low bandwith project it is a charm. As an example, here are my repositories.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might not be a solution for everyone, but you can self host a git repository on your static site!

I like the concept and the aesthetics, but I guess you still need to run a git server?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope! Little known to people, you just need to locally clone your repository with --bare and upload that. You will see you can clone it even if you don't have a git server!

It is a very slick, minimalist solution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

TIL, thanks. This might be a viable path for me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Selfhosting Forgejo is a good solution, especially since federation via ActivityPub will be available soonish.

Codeberg is nice (and will join the federation), but they are getting a bit too big and are having some scaling problems.

I am also working on a Forgejo code hosting site over at https://f-hub.org but it isn't really open for public yet (I am willing to on-board people interested in contributing to running the site though). The idea is to launch it together with the availability of the Forgejo federation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Wow, I though the federation project has been abandoned or crawled to a halt, but that's good to hear!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

especially since federation via ActivityPub will be available soonish.

Sounds pretty intresting, link to a discussion?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

free libre open source software.

Basically software by the people for the people controlled and kept in check by the people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's operated by a publicly traded company. That seems be an extreme case of "for-profit" that OP is trying to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It has an awful UI layout.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try to publish code anonymously on gitlab with Tor. They won't even let you login.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why why I do it? I have some open source code there and I link to my repos from LinkedIn. My code is not secret. If it were I would self host my repos. I'm not saying gitlab is great for everything bitits is good for many things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No protection from fire though. Just because you aren't fussed about privacy, doesn't mean others aren't. Some folk like nudist beaches, others do not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty hard to log in nowadays in some cases. Like, with my hardened firefox profile I can never get through the cloudflare automatic bot check (not even a captcha, just a reloading page that fingerprints) even if I allow the usual things.

But the Librewolf team probably has a list of reasons publicly available, as they have just moved from gitlab to codeberg for reasons like this. Simply put, gitlab is becoming user hostile.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So far I didn't have any issues logging in even on firefox with all the usual plugins and privacy settings enabled. I think saying that it's user hostile is a big exaggeration. I see how it's not 'non-profit' but I think it's still a great place for open source projects. I self host it and use the official page and it has been a very useful, good quality tool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

GitHub for the community. If GitHub ever did something evil, you can migrate trivially.