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Corrections and clarifications: John Rust is the former chair of the board of Rose Acre Farms, Inc. His brother and CEO of the company, Marcus Rust, took over the role of board chair in September.

A verdict in a federal lawsuit over price-fixing by some of the country’s largest egg companies has bled into Indiana’s 2024 U.S. Senate race.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You know what's fun? You click through to the Rose Acre Farms, Inc. website in the article and the first thing you see is the words: "Family-Owned with Small-Town Values" and the second thing you see is a Bible quote.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not surprising. I used to own a business and almost everyone who bounced a check or otherwise failed to pay their bill had, "have a blessed day" on their voice mail message. Now it just feels like anyone spouting Bible quotes or telling me to have a blessed day is just a scammer working an angle.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Showing the world how religious you are is often a cover for how immoral you are. See: Every televangelist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Never do business with a religious son-of-a-bitch. His word ain't worth a shit -- not with the Good Lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal.

--William S. Burroughs

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A republican that was sued by Nestle of all companies.

You know you might be evil when water stealing, coco slave owning, formula poisoning, Nestle is like: Yea, that's cutting into our profits.

I fear that this is just the beginning of this mess, not to mention, this is only for the 2011 egg price fixing and not the COVID egg price fixing.

Which apparently is still totally legal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

If I've learned anything about the law the past few years, illegal doesn't mean anyone (especially rich people) will get in trouble for doing it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There needs to be a new federal law against things that "Negativity Impact the American People" with very strict penalties. So just like someone can break a state or local law and then federal prosecutors can also come in and charge them for a federal crime.

Would cover this, the banks and wall Street for 2009, J&J asbestos in talc powder, opioid epidemic, etc.

Sure those laws end in fines or class action lawsuits less then the profit made. But now the people in charge that knew what they were doing get a federal prison sentence. Golden parachute right into 10 years behind bars.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They need to start actually jailing executives who are clearly culpable for this shit. Like real jail sentences. Fines mean nothing to these companies.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Jail won't do anything. You have to hit them where it hurts. We need to make criminal behavior cost them personally.

Minimum fine = 100% of all gross revenue generated from the illegal activity. This fine will be paid out of personal assets of the guilty executives first, then sezuire of stocks as assets of the board of directors and major stockholders. If this equals the governments owning a controlling interest in the company, then it is converted to an employee owned entity.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah if you start sticking these dudes in prison for 10 years when they're already in their 50s-60s, it's going to make a dent. That's a solid 30-50+% of the rest of their lives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doubt it. There will always be a new slew of psychopaths to fill in. Plus punishment has never been a good deterrent. Even less so for these types if people.

You really want to stop it you need to start holding shareholders accountable. They're the source of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Punishment is a deterrent when people know there's a good chance of getting caught. What isn't a deterrent is very harsh penalties for crimes people expect to get away with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not according to basically every study done ever. People don't think they're going to be caught. In fact it rarely even comes into their thinking. Plain and simple. More so than that I guarantee you the kind of people that become CEOs certainly never think they're going to be caught. These people think they're above the laws and rules already. 100% guarantee you the threat of punishment would not stop a CEO from committing a single crime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you avoid parking illegally? Do you drive at some approximation of the speed limit when you know you could safely go much faster? Do you always pay for things at stores run by big greedy corporations? Do you pay your taxes?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I do all of those things. Not a single freaking one because I'm worried about punishment. I think it's odd to suggest that the only reason you do what's right is because you're scared of punishment I find that a very disturbing mindset.

You're essentially making that old Christian argument right here. That people that don't follow the Bible and Christianity can't have any morals. They say that if you're not scared of damnation what would stop you from raping people or murdering people. Which is always been a horrifying thing to hear because it suggests these people would love to be raping and murdering people if it wasn't for a shadowy sky figure saying no. That's the argument you have aligned yourself with. Now if you have no problem with that fine, but I would hope any rational person would see the problem with that argument.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not the same argument because I'm not saying I'd do things I consider unethical. I'm saying I'd do a lot of things that are illegal but not unethical if I wasn't worried about getting caught.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

And that's a you problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

You don't think taking away years of their lives would be hitting them where it hurts?

[–] Lophostemon 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

A REPUBLICAN?!?!? I’m so SHOCKED.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But I thought this was Biden's fault?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I can't believe he've done this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

We’re gonna have to impeach a dumbocrat for this!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

As if almost every politician isn't in it for the money lmao

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Rose Acre Farms! There's some super weird stories linked to the founder, David Rust. Three of his employees were murdered/died under unusual circumstances in the 1970s and 80s. Theresa Osborne, Mike Reese, and Carrie Croucher. All unsolved. All involve small town weirdness and rumors.

Aside from the deaths, there was the scandal in the 80s where he left his wife because he "wanted more children and more chickens." He already had seven kids with his first wife, Lois. He found a much younger woman and had five or six more. Lois eventually divorced him and, along with her seven kids, took majority control over Rose Acre.

All Googleable, but here's a set of newspaper clippings.
https://imgur.com/a/BJuhyB9

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I kind of want a Netflix drama series about this guy now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On the one hand, this means one less corrupt piece of shit representing Indiana in the federal government.

On the other hand, Jim Banks really, really stupid.

I'm honestly not sure which is worse, but I guess this means less of an option to vote against.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What makes you think being associated with crime will have any negative impact on a Republican's political career?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

People really like eggs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I want to see some price-breaking

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Would prefer to see some head busting.