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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I find it plausible that Israel leadership didn’t care. As if it’s impossible, whatever. If it was real, they could capitalize on it to push for genocide at a faster pace via playing the victim. As it was never going to take over the country.

The only surprise was that this time, a huge number of people aren’t buying the revenge is okay story.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Huh, guess that wasn't quite such a hyperbolic comparison.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Turning it into a hyperbolic comparison immediately diffused just how apt the comparison is in other ways

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

fucking genius to go "this is just like 9/11" to get ahead of your critics who will be saying "this is just like 9/11" a month later

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

oh no, we're under attack. Guess we have no-choice but to annex gaza. That's the last thing we wanted to do

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They love “Shock Doctrine” as a business advice book.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Is that when you shove a cattle prod up a corpse's ass to shock its prostate and harvest the sperm?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Not only didn't care, but saw it as an opportunity (the article does not say this, of course)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Always being right about everything is a terrible burden for Marxists to carry.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except Russia invading when it did, tbf.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

in fairness to us, the state department was wrong dozens of times in a row and we were right about all the reasons we said "it would be a bad idea"

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is something that has been making me feel crazy since the beginning. The attack had so many participants in so many roles it would have taken years to plan and amass the arms, vehicles etc plus training. All of it happening in one of the most surveilled locations on earth, constantly overseen by the us and Israel, two of the supposedly most advanced military intelligence apparatuses in history, and they didn’t catch on that something big was being planned? Id love to believe that the two satans are truly paper tigers but I don’t buy it

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

What's not to buy? It's just typical colonizer arrogance, the same exact arrogance that led the French to getting massively owned at Dien Bien Phu. Plenty of people knew that Hamas was planning something, but Netanyahu wanted to focus on the West Bank because his voting base are settlers trying to push Palestinians out of the West Bank. There were militant operations at the West Bank throughout 2022 conducted by PIJ and the Lion's Den, so it's not completely fair to say Netanyahu was just sitting on his ass between 2021 and 2023.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

There’s a genuine issue where big data is good for prosecuting people once you have a name, but doing it in reverse can be very difficult because there’s just so many that you get too many false positives to properly follow up on. Surveillance isn’t a panacea, for better and for worse, depending on the circumstance.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What do you call it when you get Deja-Vu regarding a previous bout of Deja-Vu?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's the feeling.

I'm gonna call it Deja-Vu-Deux.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Deja-Vortrex

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

And the response was called too:

Yes, I hope those few negligent people face justice.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"please trust us guys, our surveillence technology is still epic, its just our actual people that are useless. PLEASE KEEP BUYING OUR SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Lol. I know a lib who's been saying that the 7th was allowed to happen by Netanyahu. But they've got terminal Trump brain and think the whole thing is part of a plot to get Trump re-elected.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

What happened to The Tenth Man? They just keep doing this lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

i knew day 1

"how can one of the most informed and sophisticated intelligence networks not have known of such a basic thing????"

gee sure is curious, huh