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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (17 children)

How about the governors suggest that their residents don't travel internationally with ammunition?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

I say, keep them an extra week, and let the US gov pay the fine for not noticing on departure.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How arrogant of those American governers to assume they changed dictate how other countries deal with people smuggling weapons into their country (even if those people claim to have done it as a casual accident).

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

A prison sentence doesn't make sense in these cases, since there is no risk of repeat offenses and therefore no rehabilitation required.

Just give them a 4 digit large fine and maybe deport them, unless you have a non-functioning justice system focused on cruelty, then give them a significant prison sentence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Three U.S. governors this week asked Turks and Caicos to show mercy to Americans arrested on the islands as a Florida woman became the fifth U.S. tourist to be charged with ammunition possession.

The lawmakers' plea came as the Royal Turks and Caicos Islands Police confirmed yet another American, 45-year-old Sharitta Shinise Grier of Orlando, Florida, was charged with one count of ammunition possession after two rounds were allegedly discovered in her luggage on Monday during a routine search at Howard Hamilton International Airport.

The National Rifle Association on Thursday urged the U.S. State Department to "use every means necessary to return U.S. citizens home to America."

That changed in February when a court order required even tourists to potentially face mandatory prison time in addition to paying a fine.

TSA confirmed to CBS News its officers missed the four rounds of hunting ammo in Watson's carry-on when he and his wife departed from Oklahoma City in April.

"To me, the solution here is to put more technology assists available to them," Pekosek told CBS News senior transportation correspondent Kris Van Cleave, pointing to software that would be able to identify rounds of ammunition, pieces of firearms and various knives.


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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

If I were one of them, the NRA would be the last group I'd want advocating for my release...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (50 children)

Yeah, no.

It seems that these Americans have discovered that they can't just ignore the rule of law in other countries.

Let them deal with the consequences. Let them lose that American exceptionalism.

Nobody gets a free pass for breaking laws in America, so these Americans shouldn't get a free pass for breaking laws in other countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Nobody gets a free pass for breaking laws in America

You might want to check your notes on that one...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I agree, but on the other hand 12 years? This sounds more like a 12 days crime...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The full story is that Turks and Caicos Islands has struggled against gun violence for years, so it passed much stricter gun laws in 2022. American tourists were violating this law by bringing guns and ammunition in their bags, but the courts in all of the previous cases recognized that prison was a harsh punishment for lapses like this, so they'd reduce the sentence to a fine. But it just kept happening, and perhaps in frustration, in February an appeals court ruled that the lower courts could not exercise that kind of discretion.

Given that those courts had been lowering the penalty to a fine, it seems unlikely that they'll sentence people to long prison terms. (Any prison time does seem like an overreaction, but it also seems that the country got frustrated and wants to send a message about following its laws.)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (26 children)

fuck that, its not hard to check your luggage before traveling.

Stop throwing the weight of the US government behind trying to protect assholes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (10 children)

I travel a lot, both with and without guns. And ammo has a way of ending up in the weirdest little folds of your backpack and clothes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I travel with and without. I have bags specifically for firearms and ammo. That way when I travel somewhere that having just one round of 22lr might be an issue I use a bag that never had my firearm stuff. It eliminates the uncertainty.

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