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I have a recurring issue where MS Teams makes my Framework run insanely hot. It then disconnects audio halfway through calls. Video still works, but looses audio. GPU hardware acceleration has no affect.

It's extremely frustrating when on client calls.

Only common factors are me and the framework - all other setups no issue.

Any ideas?

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Hello,

Here are some tests I did quickly.

My computeur :

- 7640U

- 16GO DDR5 5600 (Framework DDR5)

- Samsung 990pro

- windows 11 Last update

- All framework last driver and last update bios

In Cinebench r23 :

On batterie :

https://preview.redd.it/yki2n8ozgo3c1.png?width=383&format=png&auto=webp&s=bbd7532c4853608a83c7f816ac780a369ec0ea5c

Plugged into the mains:

https://preview.redd.it/g1aaumt2ho3c1.png?width=425&format=png&auto=webp&s=2263af4b501c4e293dffe394af4142f827025079

Hwmonitor during my all bentch :

https://preview.redd.it/5e8j8v18ho3c1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=16a623fea4aeb031aa73365ae6c2966762c428f2

Time spy Dx12 Plugged into the mains:

https://preview.redd.it/gjkgysodho3c1.png?width=1507&format=png&auto=webp&s=6d122e8a7e99e878e599fb053679824166d05ac6

sorry for my english i'm not very good

If you have any questions, I'm available

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Batch 9 check your information email on Nov 27th then got the shipping via fedex this AM. Whoop whoop.

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Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone tried limiting their Framework Intel 12th Gen laptops CPU max frequencies to a more efficient level to see if battery life is increased?

I remember reading an article somewhere that says that Golden Cove P-Cores efficiency is around 3-4Ghz, Gracemont E cores are efficient below 3GHz.

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This is a follow up to my previous post Super Slow Download Speeds on my 12th Gen Framework 13 with Intel AX210 from about 2 months ago.

Long story short, I am experiencing very slow download speeds over Wi-Fi while my upload speeds are pretty good, 75 Mbps - 120 Mbps down and 300 Mbps - 400+ Mbps up. These speeds are consistent on multiple networks in several locations.

On to my experience with Framework support...

Framework e-mail support is very good. They always follow up even if it takes a day or two and seem to have enough knowledge about the products to offer helpful advice and know when to escalate the the issue if necessary. The only criticism I have for the e-mail team is that I did have to repeat myself several times, most likely due to the responding support representative not thoroughly reviewing previous communications.

After going back and forth with e-mail support over a period of three weeks, replacements for both the Intel AX210 Wi-Fi adapter and the wireless antenna were shipped to me. I was able to replace them without too much trouble. I was not required to ship back the "defective" parts, most likely due to their relatively low value. Unfortunately for me, replacing these components did not improve Wi-Fi download performance. There was no significant change in download or upload speed.

E-mail support then escalated the issue. I was given the option to ship my laptop to the Framework Repair Center on their dime so their technicians could troubleshoot the issue themselves. They were unable to give me a time frame for the repair. While a bit reluctant, I agreed.

According to FedEx tracking, it took a little less than a week for the Repair Center to receive my laptop. I did not receive any updates from Framework without first asking, and while e-mail support was good about replying in a timely manner on behalf of the repair center, this is not great customer service. All-in-all, the Repair Center had my laptop on their bench for over two weeks and determined that the speeds they were getting, admittedly a bit better than mine at 215 Mbps down, were consistent with other Framework laptops. While the download speed they achieved was better, it is still well below the almost 400+ Mbps I am able to get from the other devices on my network (MacBooks, iPhones, a Chromebook, and a Pixel 7). They also recommended replacing my battery because it would only charge to 76%. I have a battery charging limit set in the BIOS because my laptop is docked most of the time. The tech at the Repair Center didn't bother to check this setting which doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in their ability to be thorough. I informed e-mail support of this so they didn't waste any time troubleshooting the battery.

After they were done testing, it took the Repair Center over a week before they shipped the laptop back. It literally just sat there. The laptop finally arrived home the day before Thanksgiving. Including round-trip shipping, I was without my laptop for a month.

I first reached out to Framework about my Wi-Fi performance issue on September 23rd. I got my laptop back from the Repair Center on November 22nd. My Wi-Fi download speeds are still not what they should be, and the Framework Repair Center claims there is nothing wrong. A lot of time and effort was wasted over the past two month by myself and by Framework.

Overall, the e-mail support was good. The response time was not always great, but they are a young company. I'm sure it will get better over time. I could definitely tell they were trying their best.

I have nothing nice to say about the Repair Center. There was no uninitiated communication. Even though the results of their testing were below spec for both Wi-Fi 5 and Wi-Fi 6, their tech claims there is nothing wrong. The tech thought there was an issue with my battery because the they didn't bother to check a simple BIOS setting. They basically ran a speed test and called it a day. After finding "no issues," they held the laptop for more than week before they sent it back.

I can only conclude that either the Repair Center did not do enough troubleshooting to find the problem with Wi-Fi performance, Framework has a serious design flaw with Wi-Fi antenna placement in the 13 that is affecting download performance, or the Intel AX210 is just garbage. In any case, I am no longer feeling great about my purchase. I was going to upgrade to the latest AMD board in another year or so, but now I am rethinking this. I might have to go back to Dell.

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No email from framework yet however got the notification from my credit card and the framework order page shows the full amount deposited.

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As I’ve just receive my batch 10 email, I believe someone told me not to bother with the speaker upgrade on AMD boards is this correct?

Also does anyone know if I can order the matte screen instead of the original by contacting support? This is DIY version and the part is the same cost

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Just got the email a minute ago. I preordered my AMD FW 13 on November 17th. They're picking up some speed!

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I really like the concept but the speakers and screen aren't premium at all.

I have a decade old Dell XPS. Similar weight, but it has a much better 4k AMOLED screen and better speakers and a touch screen. It's not really worth it to me to upgrade to something that isn't better all around, or at least has a screen that exceeds my current one in some ways.

If Framework offered a screen upgrade (both in quality and touch screen) and better speakers it'd probably be an instant buy for me. But why would I want to keep the shell of a laptop that isn't premium?

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So, a month ago I pre-ordered the 13" AMD Framework Laptop and I'm batch 9 (I confirmed it's really batch 9).

Everyone else seems to have gotten their "preparing your batch" email but I haven't. On the order page it still says "pre-order confirmed".

Is this a normale thing, do they send these emails out step-by-step, like the shipping emails, or is there an issue with my order and I need to contact support?

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Bought a framework 12th Gen Intel back in 2022. I've only had two issues with it: The HDMI card interfering with the sleep cycle (replaced with new generation HDMI card), and right after warranty expired my webcam module stopped being able to pick up sound for some reason.

I'm annoyed that the webcam module died so soon, but it was pretty darn cool to just be able to order a replacement part and easily install it in under 5 minutes. If that happened on my Surface Laptop it would have meant a whole new laptop. I'm loving Framework.

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One thing I've wondered about the FW is if it will look pretty much exactly the same 3, 5 or even 10 years down the line.

Not that I think theres anything wrong with the design (its just about perfect), but I wonder if FW will release a "new version" that isn't fully swappable with the old version.

My guess would be they release a new "shell" that may or may not be compatible with the old motherboard, maybe smaller bezels, or whatever new thing is popular at the time. Maybe they just decide to release a very similar shell, but that is made from new materials with some minor changes that make things so that they arent fully backwards-compatible.

I think they'll release updated boards for the old gen for maybe 2 generations before only making new board for the "new"design.

Im predicting this will happen in around 3-4 generations from now.

What do you think?

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I'm looking to sell my trusty Framework 13. It's been an incredibly reliable device, and it works perfectly. Unfortunately, I'm facing potential homelessness in the near future, and need the money for now. The laptop is fully functional, the only flaw is the bottom cover is bent upwards a little at one corner (see timestamps). Hoping it can go to someone who needs it!

TIMESTAMPS

Specs:

Intel i5-1340P CPU

32 GB (2x16 GB) RAM

512 GB SSD

Matte display

Orange bezel

Fedora 39, or other Linux distro upon request (Sorry, I don't have a Windows license)

3xUSB-C, 1xUSB-A expansion cards.

(Does not come with a charger or the screwdriver.)

Looking for $850 (PayPal), shipping to continental US. PM me if you're interested!

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I want to get a clear keyboard for the FW13, but not if it is not lettered, the pictures in the marketplace make it look unmarked, can anyone give me a definitive answer?

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Can't skip past it either...

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I am AMD batch 8. I received my batch preparation email on the 21st, 8 days ago. I received my about to ship email yesterday, 1 week after the preparation email. This morning I received the shipped email. So 12 hours after they said they were preparing to ship my order they shipped it, all just 1 week after they started preparing my batch.

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I was wondering how long it took for the folks that live in West Coast US from the time they got "the email" that the batch was getting ready and the delivery of their FW13. I'm gonna be out of town in mid December and I'm trying to see if there's a chance that my Batch 10 could get here in time before I leave.

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I'm buying a new laptop because Dragon is super slow on my current one. Anyone here use Dragon speech recognition software on Framework 13? Does it work well? I have a pre-order in for the 13inch AMD professional pre-build and would like some assurance that it should run smoothly for years to come. Thanks!

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Hi,

This post on the community should be of help for people to know where to report more logs/help but so far AMD is trying to fix everything as best as they can so that the driver can be more stable for Framework users, they are efforts made in the right direction.

https://community.frame.work/t/active-upstream-amdgpu-issues-affecting-ryzen-7840u-igpu-780m/41053?u=akechishiro

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Just got my AMD 13 put together, first start time it is taking awhile to say the least and is spitting out a lot of heat, is this normal for these devices like other AMD Zen products? Could something be wrong? I have a WD Black SN850x and a Crucial 16GBx2 5600mhz memory kit

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Wasn't sure about the flair, anyway, aparte from the fact that they declared bankrupt, dutch company vanmoof, fixed the problem by printing with their e-bike a big ass tv images, what if framework simply put a laptop image on the box?

https://www.vanmoof.com/blog/en/tv-bike-box

Here's the link because I'm bad at english lol

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