Knowledge Fight

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A community to discuss the podcast Knowledge Fight and topics of interest to the hosts, Dan and Jordan.

This community is unofficial. Neither Dan nor Jordan currently know about it, and I don't feel like bothering them about it. They do not know me.

Feel free to share your bright spot in the most recent bright spot thread.

Rules: If you are fans of Dan and Jordan, you know the rules already. Keep happy thoughts during our battles against poisonous ideologies.

What is Knowledge Fight? Well, no one can make it sound good. So I'll just make up a story.

What happened January 7, 2011? I don't know, but Dan can tell you. Kinda. You see, sometime in 2017, former stand-up Dan Friesen decided to see what kind of shit Alex Jones was spewing on that day on his InfoWars broadcast. Why that day? Well, it would be just your average day on the Alex Jones show, but average days don't exist there.

Dan crawled through the batshit and presented his findings to his best friend, Jordan Holmes. You can listen to that here.

Or skip that fictional origin story of Episode #75 and just visit knowledgefight.com

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In the side panel, I use the suggestion of #75 simply because that was on knowledgefight.com. But honestly, so much has changed. That was before the TX & CT awards were found by the juries. That was before the default judgements. That was before Covid.

What episodes are good to start with for a more updated Zeitgeist? The ones that are too current, I feel Alex is a little too pathetic for anyone to care.

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Have you been listening through the episode archives? Did you want say something about one from way back without sounding like Jim Gaffigan discussing Heat? Well here is the place.

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I was hyping the podcast in a c/politics thread when someone asked for a link for a pizzagate debunking.

They made the interesting point that most debunkings are merely "there is no basement". I must confess. I find this argument pretty compelling, but are there any deep-dives into the conspiracy origins from KF. Due to what I confessed, I never really followed the details of this one. It seemed to morph into QAnon conspiracies rather seamlessly. It seemed to be all claims, no known damages.

What immediately came to mind is Episode #39 in which Dan does a deep-dive into Jack Posobiec and analyzes the Comet Ping Periscope video that Owen Shroyer reports about. (No, I didn't have the episode number off the dome.)

But that is more Jack Posobiec is full of shit because pizzagate is full of shit. I love this episode. But the periscope video is more about two infowariors' total inability to "act natural". But it's not really a pizzagate debunking, I suppose. Still comedy gold in my opinion.

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Dropped: Jan 19, 2024

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Episode #890: January 16, 2024 aired Jan 19, 2024.

Dan's bright spot: The Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown. Here is a polygon.com review of it.

Jordan's bright spot: Got the ink done mentioned last episode. Still healing. So he can't show it off.

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Dropped: Jan 15, 2024

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Episode #889: The Debate Of The Century, Part 2 aired Jan 15, 2024.

Dan's bright spot: New season of Traitors. Here is a promotional article.

Jordan's bright spot: New tattoo. A band around the arm drawn by his wife inspired by the four Elements in the Legend of Korra. I assume the motifs will look like which a scaled down version of work done by Ebelin at minitokyo.net/animepaper.net

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After listening to the new episode of Knowledge Fight, here are lessons to be learned from Alex Jones's style of "debate".....

  1. Yelling all the time and never stop talking

  2. Gish Gallop (spewing lots of talking points so nobody can fact-check or counter)

  3. Name calling by pretending to misremember your opponent's name (eg, calling Destiny "Ding Dong" and claims that he forgets his name)

  4. Generalisation your opponents' talking point to make them look bad (eg, twisting your opponent's statement that Ashley wasn't get beaten in the head by saying that "HE THINKS Ashley didn't get shot!")

  5. Whataboustism

  6. Distracting by bringing other topics instead (talking about vaccines or Trump ballot during the Jan 6 debate)

Any other tactics you guys see here?

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Dropped: Jan 12, 2024

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Episode #888: The Debate Of The Century, Part 1 aired Jan 12, 2024.

Dan's bright spot: Doughboys with Mike Mitchell and Nick Wiger put out the episode Chop Stop with Tim Baltz.

Jordan's bright spot: Built Then Burnt [Hurrah! Hurrah!] by Silver Mt. Zion. A poem.