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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We have absolutely aborted the campaigns of incumbent presidents before.

Once... Over 100 years ago...

https://www.npr.org/sections/politicaljunkie/2009/07/a_president_denied_renominatio.html

How bad do you want to roll those odds on trump getting elected again? Also, who are you supporting for president this time round, and what do you figure their chances are of winning?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I said aborted the campaign, not lost the nomination. Usually the candidates have the good sense to bow out before that happens.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Are you talking about Truman? One guy who started to seek the presidency, after serving 1.5 terms, and then pulling out before being the presumptive nominee? I don't think history is on your side for this one.

Also, answer the questions please.

Edit: You actually said "We have absolutely aborted the campaigns of incumbent presidents before." Implying that the candidate did not win their nomination. Let's go ahead and put those goalposts back where they were initially.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's no implication there. The words mean exactly what they say.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Alright, so your position is invalid. Before moving on, please answer my original questions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad you unilaterally decided that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Actually, you decided that.

Answer the questions already.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not going to engage in whataboutism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Clearly you don't understand what a whataboutism is.

Your position was logically indefensible, which I have demonstrated (without your answers, or lack thereof, to my original challenge) even after you moved the goalposts. If you wish to discuss this further, you'll need to clear the initial (very low) bar I laid out for honest discourse. It's time you put some skin in the game, instead of polluting my screen with vacuous replies from the safety of political/social anonymity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The idea that campaigns get aborted is indefensible? That we don't elect presidents for 8 years? or That the DNC leans hard on any dissent to prevent such an end to Biden's campaign? Which idea there is indefensible? The only thing you've done is denied, fearmongered, and shouted what about trump. That's not something I'm going to spend more than a couple minutes responding to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The idea that campaigns get aborted is indefensible?

No, you're moving your goalpost again. We have not "aborted" the campaign of an incumbent president.

That we don’t elect presidents for 8 years?

This is a poor strawman that you have built and has been refuted, please refer back.

That the DNC leans hard on any dissent to prevent such an end to Biden’s campaign

Finally, something new and of substance. Yes, the DNC has had a history of picking favorite candidates. Unfortunately, this is the first time you've brought this up, hence why I haven't addressed it, and at this point, I have serious doubts about you arguing in good faith. Please address my original questions before I address any more of yours.

The only thing you’ve done is denied, fearmongered, and shouted what about trump.

Citations needed.

That’s not something I’m going to spend more than a couple minutes responding to.

Yep, and it shows, with your piss poor logic, inability to recall, and time wasting dribble that you call a "response".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Disingenuous troll is disingenuous, color me surprised. Take a hike.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This from the guy who says you only get to vote against your party's president before they're president.

Biden is very much the Democrat presumptive nominee. The time to select someone else was before he was President.

If you're going to deny things that clearly exist then I'm under no obligation to take you seriously.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Before the “real left” quisling trolls respond, please tell us two things… Who is the 3rd party candidate you are supporting instead? What are their chances of winning this election?

I've doubted you were serious since your 3rd reply. Pass the test or accept your fate as a miserable coward.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

LMAO, oh no! Random internet stranger thinks I'm a coward. The horror!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

LMAO, oh no! You've admitted you're a troll coward to the entire internet! What a huge loss for humanity!