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Republican senators say they’re worried that conservative populism, though always a part of the GOP, is beginning to take over the party, becoming more radical and threatening to cause them signifi…

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would disagree. The conservatives nowadays are not even conservative. Pre reagan republicans were way different than post reagan ones and even pre trump is different than post trump. The party is just nutters now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This.

Are you going to tell me Eisenhower wasn't a good conservative?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have to go back to the 50s to disprove the notion that there are no good conservatives, I feel like that's a pretty good indication that there are no good conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If they stayed in the party through The Trump years, through all the lies, gaslighting, irrationality, racism, scapegoating, boorishness, hostility, anti-intellectualism, misogyny, crime, opposition to democracy, and a failed insurrection... they're not conservative, they're radical right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They have co-opted the term because it lends them credibility. They are not conservative, they are a death-cult.

Being 'conservative' in a political sense was once about how much you thought the government should pull economic levers. At least in Canada, where our Liberal and Progressive Conservative parties were once fairly close together.

"Conservatives" today are fundamentalists, which means they would make very poor conservatives, even if they knew what economic levers were. Gotta move beyond the fundamentals eventually.