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[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Once, years ago, went out to a restaurant with some friends and had a couple drinks. Wasn't paying close enough attention to my intake, and ended up a little too tipsy to drive (not, like, belligerent drunk or anything, just not safe to drive). Hung out sitting on the hood of my car watching videos on my phone for a while with a friend until he had to leave. Before he left, this super cute guy started talking to us. We hit it off, and dude and I started getting flirty. Went back to his place because it was walking distance, did the deed, and when we were done I went to get some water from his kitchen.

Wherein I see not one, not two, but no less than a dozen coffee mugs, posters, fucking rugs, and all manner of paraphernalia with right wing nonsense. We're talking he had a fucking swastika area rug. I begin the heavy breathing of a scared little gay boy (6'3 and nearly 300lbs/190cm 135kg), and he notices my discomfort. He acts like this is nothing unusual and says he's just a collector of WWII shit.

Yeah, bro, maybe you are. But that doesn't explain the don't tread on me poster, the trump 2016 merch, and fucking birth of a nation movie poster!

I got the fuck outta there before his lawyers had a chance to try out a gay panic defense.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago (7 children)

...says he’s just a collector of WWII shit.

Isn't is funny how nobody collects the stuff from the Allies?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

Only my grandparents stuff from when they kicked Nazi ass. They’d be horrified at todays bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have WWII stuff from the allies, but it isn't even from the European parts of the war. From my grandfather. His father earned US citizenship by fighting in WWI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

You have inherited stuff, but do you collect and display it?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

There actually is a pretty large WW2 Allied collector and reenactor community. I know a guy with a Jeep with a mounted quad MG.

Just don't ask too many questions about the other team.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

To be fair, it is more intriguing to collect the stuff of the objectively bad guy. A lot of it is like, it feels almost unbelievable, so nazi memorabilia helps ground that reality that, yes, it actually happened (and how it might have happened)

Of course there is nuance to this, though

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Everyone loves an unterhund?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Probably just Axis being the driver of history at the moment.

It started there, and what Allies did is they put this down.

People tend to be more interested in what started the fire and what has let it burn; what has left a dent in history. Doesn't mean they lean to Nazi ideology.

(Disclaimer: I collect neither and am not interested in war history, or war in general)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't want to nitpick but plenty of historical gun owners love both sides weaponry and display both. Personally, I know a friend that owns a STG 44 and a ppsh and a tommy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Collecting multiple kinds of guns is a bit different than collecting all of the other things that are clearly nazi branded propaganda. Having one or two guns isn't really collecting in the same way as having a bunch of nazi branded everyday use items with the red black and white swastika flag.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not disagreeing that was my point. However the people who are in that hobby normally get other kit than just guns. What matters is how it's displayed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nazi rug in the bathroom is OK with me

Long as it’s in the toilet (and the bathtub has a big drain)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Anyone displaying a swatstika anything that's a reproduction or new production item needs to get their head checked IMHO. I'm only ok with actual historic pieces from the era.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I begin the heavy breathing of a scared little gay boy (6'3 and nearly 300lbs/190cm 135kg)

Holy shit I died

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Thank you, I'll be here for the foreseeable future... As I can't afford to leave

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait, are you a gay man or a female? This story's context changes drastically with your answer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Nice. I feel bad for these fundies that have to pretend to be conservative but are actually pretty liberal sexually.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ugh, gay guy here, totally relate. Hate it when the cute gay guy is a fascist. Has happened multiple times for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Seriously? Because out of 20 years of homoing professionally this is my sole example. I hope to God I don't run into it again lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sadly yeah, flirting with guys online, lots of them turn out to be far-right. Luckily, I’m no longer single, so I don’t have to deal with it anymore. But at least 3 guys I’ve been kinda interested in turned out that way. Found out before sleeping with any of them, thankfully

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That sucks! My only other kinda close example is a dude I used to blow back in my "falling for straight guys" phase ended up going ancap, but that was a while after we were hooking up.