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A record number of athletes openly identifying as LGBTQ+ are competing in the 2024 Paris Olympics, a massive leap during a competition that organizers have pushed to center around inclusion and diversity.

There are 191 athletes publicly saying they are gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer and nonbinary who are participating in the Games, according to Outsports, an organization that compiles a database of openly queer Olympians. The vast majority of the athletes are women.

That number has quashed the previous record of 186 out athletes counted at the COVID-19-delayed Tokyo Olympics held in 2021, and the count is only expected to grow at future Olympics.

“More and more people are coming out,” said Jim Buzinski, co-founder of Outsports. “They realize it’s important to be visible because there’s no other way to get representation.”

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Since you apparently can’t find any scientists who agree with you

I'm not sure what we're conflicted here about, so let's clarify: Are you saying that I cannot find any scientists to agree with me on my claim that males have smaller gametes and females have larger gametes? Also: what's the standard we're aiming at here? What do I need to find to convince you that I'm right? Do I need to find a live actual scientist that answers this question for me, or do you need a scientific paper or something? I'm guessing that a basic biology book is not enough for you, since this fact definitely is in every one of them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You said it is "an accepted definition" for both, but that there are exceptions, which is not scientific. Definitions do not have exceptions in science. If the definition is not universal, the definition is thrown out and a new one is found. That's how science works.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

but that there are exceptions, which is not scientific

Why would you say that? How do you define "scientific"? Might you be conflating it with some pure form of science, like mathematics or pure logic?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, if you think "exception to the rule" is a thing in science, you really don't understand science.

That's like saying there's an "exception to the rule" of the first law of thermodynamics. There just isn't because there can't be. If there was, we would have to redefine that law of thermodynamics.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Would you say that biology is not a science? Is your point that if a theory has exceptions, it needs to be replaced with a better theory?

I'm not absolutely certain as it's not exactly my main area of study, but I think nature and biology don't fit 100% well into such thinking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is your point that if a theory has exceptions, it needs to be replaced with a better theory?

Yes, that is literally how science works. Are you really not aware of that?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, so how would you reconcile these two things into one better theory:

  • males have smaller gametes
  • females have larger gametes
  • there are some (about 1%) exceptions to the above two

Do you throw it all away because of that 1%?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Yes you do. Just like you would if 1% of the matter in the universe violated the first law of thermodynamics.

I'm sorry, I'm not going to continue explaining very basic concepts of science to you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. Yes you do. Just like you would if 1% of the matter in the universe violated the first law of thermodynamics.

I’m sorry, I’m not going to continue explaining very basic concepts of science to you.

Well, you failed trying to convince me you have any idea what you're talking about, but at least you succeeded in emphasizing a stereotype. Have a nice day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I have no idea what stereotype you're talking about unless you think I'm stereotyping people who don't understand the scientific method.