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The barrage began around midnight and continued beyond daybreak in what appeared to be Russia's biggest attack against Ukraine in weeks.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/qwOaT

SpinScore: https://spinscore.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.euronews.com%2Fmy-europe%2F2024%2F08%2F26%2Frussian-missiles-hit-energy-infrastructure-in-more-than-half-of-ukraines-regions

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's not perfect, but it's better than anything else out there. Using your own brain will always be required, no tool will ever change that.

And fact is not subjective, opinion is, and you seem to lump them together. And it uses primary sources for information verification, and those tend to be major outlets purely due to their size. Nobody else can afford to monitor all the governments, companies, and other official bodies and report about them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

And fact is not subjective, opinion is, and you seem to lump them together

You say this about the comment in which I say:

In essence, it is a media consensus machine with some basic reading comprehension thrown in for people who can't read English well enough to determine if a statement is, for example, an expression of the authors feelings or a statement on facts of the world.

Not to mention that "whether something is a fact or not" or, more commonly, "what is the most likely explanation for what we are seeing," is typically not something you have practical access to, which is why you are reading about it, so what you are left with is not metaphysical truth, but testimony, which is very corruptible. I don't just mean this as a hypothetical, I mean that most outlets engage in an aggressive battle over a small minority of mostly-social subjects while operating in complete or near-complete agreement on many important topics.

But even if we want to sidestep the issue of testimony mediating our access to metaphysical truth, there is still the question of which facts to include.

Low-hanging fruit:

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-08-21/clinton-dnc-speech-harris-endorsement-joy

ctrl+f "epstein": 0

https://spinscore.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fpolitics%2Fstory%2F2024-08-21%2Fclinton-dnc-speech-harris-endorsement-joy

ctrl+f "epstein": 0

Seems like it's missing important information that it could at least mention in passing about the subject of the piece, but maybe that's just me. I guess it's all relative.

And it uses primary sources for information verification, and those tend to be major outlets purely due to their size.

Like I alluded to in mentioning "circular citation", very often news organizations aren't doing anything resembling original research in their articles. They are just publishing what other articles already said.

But you are still missing that this is question-begging the correctness of the media, even though they have over and over been shown to be quite willing to work together to push atrocity propaganda and all kinds of nonsense.