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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No it has always been an additional purchase. The only "self driving" mode that's included by default is their "auto pilot", which is just TACC with better lane assist so it can take sharper bends in the road without "bouncing" between the lines like most other cars do with lane assist.

Most people seem to incorrectly think that autopilot and FSD are the same thing, but they are not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

additional purchase

😂 people pay to be guinea pigs? Wow...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Welcome to the tech early adopter world.

I for one are very happy that there are so many ~~suckers~~ brave bleeding edge tech adopters willing to spend the money and endure the amateur-hour technology put together with spit-and-chewing-gum so that the rest of us get to enjoy the handful of trully useful stuff that survives to become mature products.

Somebody has to be the cannon-fodder in battling all the fraud and bullshit of present day "Tech" "innovations", and I for one am glad there are so many volunteers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You shouldn't be happy about that, if for no reason other than other drivers (and pedestrians, cyclists, etc) are put at risk of these systems' limitations, and folks relying on them more than they ought to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

That's up to regulators: even brand new "innovative" electronics devices that plug to mains power still have to obbey regulations to protect people from electrocution, so similarly self-driving vehicles should have to obbey regulations to protect people from being killed by them.

If they don't have to obbey such regulations or the regulations are insufficient, the blame is on the Regulators, which generally means the blame is on Politicians.

It's not up to buyers, early adopters or otherwise, to have the technical expertise to determine if something they're buying is dangerous (often not even experts can tell without actual disassembly and lab testing).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, that's not really unique to Tesla customers in any way. Lots of people like to be early adopters of new things, tech more than other things I believe. More often than it's not very good when they buy in to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

When those things are on wheels, though....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, autopilot is now also an additional feature

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That seems to be region specific then, because I just checked and autopilot is still included by default where i live (northern Europe). Only enhanced autopilot and FSD are additional purchases here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Apparently I’m lying twice over then. You’re probably right about autopilot vs “enhanced autopilot” but I just looked at the order page and only fed is extra cost. It’s also much cheaper than it would have been when I got my Tesla.