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What made everybody move from a corporate social media platform to another corporate social media platform instead of the fediverse?

After all, the Fediverse and Activitypub is much more mature than Bluesky and the copycat AT protocol or Threads and ... whatever they use.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 months ago (5 children)

2 and 3 are massive. I'm on Mastodon, but am having a much better time on Bluesky. Mastodon is full of gatekeeping and policing and people complaining - Bluesky is just fun and interesting, like Twitter 12 years ago

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Who are these people who actually FIND users go follow on either service???

I have Bluesky. I have Mastodon. I log into each every few months, realize nothing has changed, and there is nobody to follow.

Then I don't use either, until I wonder a few months later "heeeey, I wonder if people are on these services yet......"

Still no.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Mastodon revolves around following topics and hashtags, not individuals. I learned that early on, and am having a much better experience.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a worse lemmy 😅

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Not really. In terms of engaging with posts, oh my god, absolutely it's worse. Twitter and its clones suck when it comes to engaging with things people post (but Mastodon at least makes it a bit better by increasing the character limit). But there's just something different about following a hashtag versus following a Lemmy community. Like for example, when it comes to getting highly detailed, up-to-the-minute news about things, Mastodon beats Lemmy every time. Additionally, I can see people's random, one-off takes that wouldn't really warrant a post on Lemmy.

I would argue too that it's not even true that you should just be focused on following hashtags, but rather that you should be trying to do both.

To me, Lemmy is the type of place I could kill two hours; for Mastodon, it's maybe 15 minutes, but that doesn't make it inferior, just a different use-case. It's pretty apples-to-oranges.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Well then it will never be useful for me. I want to follow PEOPLE. I want people to follow me for the random shit I say.

Then they retweet the random shit, and now a whole NEW group of people can wonder what's wrong with me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I follow hashtags I like, then see who the people are who use those tags, then follow those people.

I find that I discover people that way I would not have found otherwise.

It's worked well for me so far. I wasn't a twitter person before though, so I don't know if I have the experience you did for comparison.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

See, I already know who I want to follow. I want to follow Nintendo. I want to follow Game Grumps. I want to follow my local pro wrestling indy. I want to follow MXRPlays.

But none of them are on the fediverse. Although, Andy Richter is on BlueSky. So that's something......I guess......

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Ah, yeah fair point there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I want to follow Game Grumps

Word.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

If you start following hashtags, then you find interesting people. There are also curated lists that you can sign up for. That will introduce you to a lot of new content.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

there's plenty of that going on, too, just not on as large a scale.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Then it's not the platform for you.

IIRC there's an iOS only frontend that fills that niche.

Also there is a trending section but its hidden behind the "explore" page, along with the search function. One of many reasons I really don't like Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Put hashtags on your random shit and more people will find it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to copy/paste my last comment. You tell me what hashtag I'm supposed to use.

ABYSS LOVES CHICKEN WINGS!!!!

CLAP-CLAP-CLAPCLAPCLAP

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

#random #absurd #mentalinstitution #helpme

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There’s algorithms you can subscribe to and use to discover people based on your interests. Theres also algorithms that show you posts based on who you follow and what posts you like. You can also enable your normal Following feed to show you some algorithm posts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm following like 3 people. One is a bot that reposts things from twitter. One is a bot that posts local weather. And one is what I THOUGHT was Nintendo, but turns out it's just [email protected].

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well that’s the issue then stop following bots? Look up a hashtag or keyword and find people or subscribe to one of the many algorithms

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Use lists on bsky to find people.

And just gained a million people, biggest spike yet. So should be a bit more active.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Depends a bit on the type of person and content you want to follow. But if you like retro computer Shenanigans etc. I know action retro is on Lemmy and Mastodon and I follow them on mastodon. But yes General content for the normies probably not so much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The over policing thing is so true. I’ve gotten messages from techhub.social mods with warnings about making jokes that even hinted at breaking one of their precious rules. Like if I did something wrong, ban me I guess. It’s pretty clear I didn’t and the mod just wanted to flex his power towards me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
  1. Is bigger than the rest.

Take Brazil. Blusky saw the writing on the wall with Twitter, so they threw a ton of money into media. Guess where everyone went.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Nothing specific, just knowledge from those closer, and not likely they'll publicize ad spend, but uptick was seen. Bluesky ads started around April when they had the big influx after the first suspension. Overview, but not a reference: https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/articles/cm2nkdkypk7o

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Regarding 2: you can also join the Fediverse this way with certain clients I believe. You are automatically signed up for lemmy.world for example

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

like Twitter 12 years ago

So don't use it then. Gotcha.