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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Have we ever had a presidential candidate swap, and then a VP swap in the same election year before?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can he be swapped? I thought the reason Biden got swapped is because he wasn't locked in yet, but now the candidates are locked in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

That's a good question. Unfortunately we're living in interesting times.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure that he can be. He was nominated by Trump, and the party as a whole voted on both Trump and Vance, together. Would they need a new convention in order to select a new VP? I don't know. I don't think that anything like that has ever happened before, so it would be uncharted territory. Much like if the VP died in office.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They could always say that JD is officially on the ticket, but he is going to resign day 1 and let RFK Jr. have the job...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not entirely sure that the president can simply appoint a new VP once they're in office, since VP is an elected position.

It's a fascinating question, and I hope that there's never any reason to see it answered.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

VP can resign at any time though. I'd have to double check, but I don't think there is a line if succession for the VP, since the President is over the VP, they can just select a new VP, although Congress may have to have a majority vote to accept the appointment.

Now to go check how good my HS government class was almost 20 years ago...

Edit : 25th Amendment, Section 2

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

I actually can't find anything (quickly) about when/how the VP can resign, but I assume they would have to formally submit their resignation in writing, or verbally and directly to the President, who would accept the resignation. As far as I can tell, the VP could resign right after being sworn in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the VP spot is vacant, the president selects a new VP who must then be confirmed by the House and Senate; per the 25th amendment:

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Hmmm, simple majority vote. Interesting. So if we somehow got a Democratic house with a Trump presidency, they could just refuse to confirm any VP at all, which would make the speaker of the House 2nd in line for the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agnew resigned. Nixon nominated Ford to replace. Congress approved the nomination. Ford became vp and became president when Nixon resigned. Ford repeated the process FOR whomever he selected for VP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

We truly do not live in a democracy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ballots are already getting printed and early voting will start soon.