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And vegans wonder why they have a reputation for being overly dramatic and preachy 🤦
If you want sane people to listen, maybe take it down several hundred notches..
We have this reputation solely because people feel threatened and offended when you tell them that you refuse to eat animal products. They suddenly start being confrontational and refuse to listen to your reasoning.
It's like arguing with little children who plug their ears and sing while you're trying to explain that 30% of the reason we're in a climate crisis is their overconsumption of animal products, derived from creatures capable of emotion, able to see, hear, and smell not unlike you and me.
And those conversations do not come up unsolicited but provoked by meat eaters asking "but why would you do that to yourself?"
But maybe I'm being overly dramatic and preachy 🤦
If I didn't completely kill your interest in the topic, check out Ed Winters on YouTube.
If the description above is not dramatic the idk.
Concepts like rape just don't exist in the animal kingdom. It's like the standard way of having offspring.
Same for the thing about taking children away.
Did you forget humans are animals? If you don’t like using the word rape to describe sexually violating an animal, there’s another one we’ve come up with… bestiality.
Are you seriously trying to say humans are the only species who should have a right not to be sexually violated or have their children taken from them and killed? Since we know that cows are thinking, feeling, emotional creatures capable of forming strong family bonds… what exactly is it about humans that makes them special in that way?
Humans are special in more than one characteristic. One of them is that humans have consensual intercourse and have a word for and laws against intercouse that isn't.
Cows don't have that. Animals in general don't have that. You wouldn't say one shark is raping another. Or lions are raping each other. Unless you are really missing the point at least
Bestiality is another term you don't seem to understand. Artifical insemination does not involve the performance of sexual acts from the human's point of view.
It's a human term from a human's perspective.
You wouldn't call it Bestiality when a dog humps your leg. the animal's perspective does not matter here. It should be that way because animals cannot in a meaningful way consent.
I don't agree with the term sexual violation.
In a perfect way no animal would ever die, but nature is eat or be eaten most of the time. Cows usually are the ones that will be eaten.
Choose one
I didn't say all characteristics so I don't think I have to