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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's either that, a subscription model of some sort, going to pay to install models, or something else to fund themselves. I'd suggest going to a donation based model, but I doubt there's enough Firefox users willing to pay to even be able to keep it alive more than a year or two tops.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Says who?

Plenty of sites out there just run by people who want to run them, no fee, no ads.

It's people who want to capitalize on having a website that have this problem.

And let's be clear, it's their problem. Not mine. If they can't turn a profit with/without ads, that's not my concern, that's theirs. But they setup these web sites/services with the intention of making money through ads and surveillance, so let's not go around acting like these orgs just won't make it without us (there are exceptions, say archive.org, and guess what, people donate to them because they believe in the cause).

The problem is a bunch of people figured out the web was a brilliant way to data mine for profit. I actually had this discussion with a friend circa 1993. If we could see it then, imagine how many other people already had plans.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Universal Basic Income, ala star trek, is an option, then just let everybody make cool shit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Star Trek has no Universal Basic Income. It has replicators for all your basic needs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Replicators, which are universal and basic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It, uh...makes...food...uh...come in...?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Money has a definition. It is exchanged for goods and services. In the Star Trek universe, they are not trading replicators in exchange for goods and services, the goods are made by the replicator and services are provided freely. Therefore replicators are not money or income or anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Money has a definition, but "income" is the word used, and that's a euphemism that could be remapped.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Have you tried to make money with one?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hahahaha, you're funny.

Because people suddenly become altruistic, and won't try to fuck over the next person?

UBI won't fix human nature.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

oh no the human nature argument

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If treated like animals, that's what happens. Observe the difference between U.S. criminal justice, and the Netherlands. Without a chip in your shoulder, it's pretty simple.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would happily pay to download Firefox if they removed telemetry, ads, analytics. Security updates could be free, feature updates could have a small fee. Something similar.

There is a way to fund Firefox without user data and ads. Will it be as profitable, who knows, because quite simply, the vast majority do not want to make it a reality and loose what profit, control, or power they currently hold onto.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I've always said this about software. Let me license a specific version, with free minor updates until the next major release.

If the new version has something I need/want, I may be willing to buy it again.

I use lots of old software, on my PC and my phone. It works, why do I need the new version? And some, the new version sucks so bad I refuse to upgrade (FolderSync on Android, for example).