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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20998907

October 01, 2024

Guest - Peter Goodman
NewYorkTimes global economics correspondent

[a surprisingly pro-worker viewpoint from a writer from the NYT -PL]

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I support unions but these port workers make a shit ton of money (1 in 3 make 200k per year). They turned down a 50% pay increase plus continued automation avoidance and more employer retirement contributions because they know they can fuck over the US economy during an election year. Downvote me if you want but this is a hostage negotiation.

Edit: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/10/02/port-strike-dockworkers-wages/75485424007/

I actually disagree with my post. According to the article I just read, I was correct about how much some of them make (1/3 make $200k or more), but the starting pay does suck ($20 an hour). The average salary was $59k a year. I was wrong and ill informed. Alright, I’ll stand with the union on this one. I agree with their demand.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Hell yeah on changing your opinion to fit the facts, dude. Let's hear it for rational discourse!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The citation I found for you changed my argument. The original citation I had didn’t inform me of all the information needed to understand how much everyone is paid. The starting pay sucks. I rescind my previous position. I stand with the union on this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good on you. That takes some moxy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I don’t mind admitting when I’m wrong. I can’t grow as a human without altering my views to adapt to the facts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

This fucking person right here wins the internet today.