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The election is in three weeks, and Pennsylvania is a must-win state for both Trump and Kamala Harris, but during a rally last night in Montgomery County, northwest of Philadelphia, Trump got bored with the event, billed as a “town hall,” and just played music for almost 40 minutes, scowling, smirking, and swaying onstage. Trump is no stranger to surreal moments, yet this was one of the oddest of his political career.

This kind of behavior would have resulted in discussion of dementia and Alzheimers if it was a Democrat.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I just saw a photo from last nights town hall. The man looks like he wont make it to november 5th.

Sincere question: Have any of the experts run numbers on what happens to the vance ticket if trump takes a worm nap before nov 5th?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. You have to remember you aren't electing Trump directly. You're voting for his electors.

If Trump dies before taking office, the party decides who will take his place.

It's most likely going to be Vance, but honestly it could be anyone.

Assuming that there isn't any fuckery (it's Republicans after all), then Vance becomes President and then nominates a VP that goes through the Senate approval process.

I can't remember the last time this was discussed but it was a while ago.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I agree, but that wasnt my question. Well, i guess it was accidentally vague. I can see how you misunderstood my prompt.

My question is in regards to what direction the voting public trend if that happens. Martyr boost propelling vance up, or fizzle bust?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Fizzle bust. Vance has a fraction of the charisma and no cult of personality. As for martyrs...

“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Hard to say. When he finally dies or is just off the Republican ticket one way or another, we'll find out how much of the Republican voting base is attached to Trump, not the GOP.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If only we could be so lucky.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well thats why i ask. You can say lucky us, but at this point in the election, im not so sure.

Between the vitriol and retoric and conspiracy theories weve already seen, the implication of violence and absolute craziness would, without question be enough for me to not hope for anything like that.

But im asking about how the voting public would poll. Would vance get a martyr boost from their dear dead leader, or would an immediately apathetic undecided vote rise up, one that was origionally locked into the trump/vamce ticket. Would it just vanish overnight? I doubt it, but vance remains an amazingly unpopular vp pick. Without trump, where is his ceiling?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that’s a good point; my brain is never prepared for the irrational conspiracies these idiots cook up. I would think that without trump, the whole momentum behind him would just die off, but who knows what would happen if Vance then just starts saying that the democrats poisoned his Big Mac and assassinated him. I’d like to think that only the die-hard crazies would still be motivated enough to vote for Vance and the rest would just stay home.