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Yeah but by continuing to support the tipping system, nothing will ever change. The best thing to do is stop giving business to restaurants with a tipping culture.
If enough people refuse to eat at these places, eventually employees will start quitting and restaurant owners will have to start paying their workers a decent wage.
There are plenty of restaurants with delicious high-quality food and no tips accepted. You don't have to be waited on by a server.
While your plan is good in theory, how many places like this have you found? I have ran into a grand total of zero. It's hard to support businesses doing it a better way when you can't find any.
I guess the issue then is your definition of fast food. I wouldn't count the majority of those because they're fast food.
Well allow me to clarify, then: My definition is cheap junk that is available fast. Many of the restaurants I listed might be fast, but not all of them are cheap processed junk. You can't call Panera junk, for example.
Yes you can. It's fast food. Just slightly more upscale fast food.
Damnit I should have said Flower Child. Regardless, I deleted my comment cause they were bad examples anyway. You're right. Eat at local restaurants instead of chains if you want healthy. There are plenty where you can walk up to the counter and order without having to tip anyone.
I guess I missed that you're intentionally avoiding places with waiters/servers. That's what I had in mind. I've visited plenty of places that don't have a tip jar out or activate the tipping feature on the credit card machine. I don't really consider them making progress away from the wild tipping culture we currently have. They just haven't fallen into the ridiculous yet. I get what you're saying now.
Ultimately, nothing's going to change unless something changes on the state or federal level. My state tried instituting a minimum wage that included waiters, but restaurants put up such a stink that the waiter part got reversed. "We'll have to raise our prices!" Yeah no shit, but then we won't pay tip. It theoretically should wash out in the end.
Huh. I've literally never been anywhere that does this.
You've never been to a restaurant where you walk up to the counter and place your order there, instead of being waited on by a server? Really? (And I don't mean fast food.)
Even some of those restaurants (counter service) are putting ‘suggested tips’ on the bill. Tipping for what? Handing me my sandwich?