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Apollo for Reddit is shutting down (www.theverge.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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whelp, there it is

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is this, from the transcript:

Me: I said "If you want Apollo to go quiet". Like in terms of- I would say it's quite loud in terms of its API usage.

Reddit: Oh, go quiet as in that. Okay, got it. Got it. Sorry.

Me: Like it's a very-

Reddit: Yeah, that's a complete misinterpretation on my end.

Me: Yeah. No, no, it's all good.

Reddit: I apologize. I apologize immediately.

The "threat" part was resolved right there. Steve just wanted to retcon the conversation as a way to dog Christian. He didn't anticipate Christian was gonna roll in with receipts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I found that interesting. I generally don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence, and I imagine either (or both) of these is likely:

The 'evasive' language made everything feel implied, that when pressed to outright admit his intentions he falls back. He was evasive, evasive, evasive, pressed, fell back. Still he did not clarify he was selling Apollo, only that 'go quiet' meant 'pay me off and Apollo stops making calls'. It's possible Spez did not believe him and was trying to deescalate.
Internally discussing the outcome of the call with other members on staff, they may have felt (1) was true, or Spez accepted the explanation but other staff didn't; they discussed the implications of each possible intention; and they collectively decided they should probably treat it as a threat since it remained ambiguous. It's possible Spez did want to believe him but other staff didn't.

The conclusion doesn't have to be that Spez believed him, then personally as an individual decided "oh, actually, fuck it" and decided to lie about it anyway. In fact I'd say that of the three possibilities, that's the least likely.