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The disapproval of Elon Musk is the top reason Tesla Model 3 owners are selling their electric vehicles and going for another brand, according to a new survey of 5,000 Model 3 owners.

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If I already had a Tesla I don't know that I'd sell it because of him, but he was one of the major factors in me not even considering them when I was shopping for my EV. The other reasons being shoddy quality control, shitty practices, and dumb design decisions. All of which probably stem from him anyway.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd be looking to sell it, specifically because of him.

The willingness for him to make executive decisions to fuck people using his platforms is what frightens me. He'll cut starlink for people he doesn't like. He'll snipe twitter accounts of people he doesn't like.

Since Teslas can be remotely force fed new updates, I genuinely believe it's just a matter of time before he starts fucking with peoples cars. I expect as a way to use Tesla owners as pawns to apply political pressure in areas w/ high ownership that enact tax policy he doesn't like.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

My friends already sold their Teslas a few months ago.

It was such a wild ride watching them go, "Surely he's not serious" to "I'm embarrassed to drive this".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't doubt he'd try that, but if he did he'd be in for a world of hurt since people need their cars to get to work. I imagine the government wouldn't take kindly to people's 5 digit dollar purchased not working on the whims of a crazy billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It doesn't have to be as blatant as turning them off. Just garnishing features. Nerfing sentinel, range, top speed, etc.

I can almost hear the bullshit. "X state's lithium recycling tax policy means we have to limit discharge to 80% to avoid premature battery degredation. Drivers may notice a range reduction but it is required to operate within this new regulatory environment"

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, if my car was beyond repair tomorrow and I needed a new one, I'd be getting either a Hyundai Ioniq 6 or a Silverado EV. A few years ago, I would've been leaning toward the Model 3.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really want a bolt euv but I’m put off by them cancelling and then uncancelling it. I’m worried what will happen when they stop making the car (and therefore parts for it) a year or two after I bought it…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No car is made forever, even a next generation isn't going to use the same parts and this has regularly happened with cars when they make new generations, it's not a new problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hyundai Ioniq 6

Please don't buy that one due to significant safety concerns with the i-pedal driving mode feature https://youtu.be/U0YW7x9U5TQ

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

THANK GOD. Also thank you for sharing this information. That fact scared the actual shit out of me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, hopefully other EV designers learn from this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just don't use one pedal mode.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So. What's your plan here exactly? Are you just going to tell all of the owners don't use that feature or ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm saying if you want an EV6 and you don't care about one pedal driving, then you don't have to worry about that problem. It's an optional driving mode that I personally don't use since I dislike it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I understand your perspective I don't think you're seeing mine.

I understand I don't have to use that feature, I'm concerned about the (now fixed) safety violation the feature presents by not indicating that someone is breaking when those drivers who want to use it choose to do so.

Simply saying "don't use it" only fixes it in one instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm concerned about it too, but telling people "don't buy it" isn't any more helpful than saying "don't use this feature."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see my failure, I thought I included "until it's fixed" in my original statement. That's what I get for posting during work

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same. I had to get a new car recently. Prices were crazy and I wish I had gone with a new instead of a used. But Tesla was off the list from the beginning. I figured I'd wait one more car to get electric. Should be in a new place by then where I can install a home charger too, and the prices will probably be drastically lower by the time my current car dies again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

teslas were cool when they were the only practical electric cars, especially sports cars. but that's no longer true and it's becoming less so every year. may as well get a mach-e or a ioniq and ditch muskyboy