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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not quite. To me, it’s more like “men don’t even have the option of building relationships like women do, and that’s not healthy. Society is broken.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But they didn't say that. They flat out said "men are broken".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to have stopped reading once you got through the headline and missed the entire article written afterwards.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surely you have something more constructive to say than a sneering quip?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure: Read the article and reassess what you think it's about. I for sure didnt walk away with the same impression you did, but I could see why I would if I read the headline and headed straight to the comments section.

At least read the article before you criticize it, because it's nothing like what you seem to think it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I did read it and it's riddled with shit I would never, ever want, and yet he presents it like it's a bad thing. Here's a choice example:

When traveling or running errands, and I saw a parent dealing with an exhausting kid, I could help and not be stared at like a creep.

I can't imagine ever wanting to help with a strangers child. Not because I might be treated like a creep, but because it's just none of my business. I would even go so far as to say that assuming they need help is problematic in itself. But he doesn't address that; no, apparently men don't help because we've been broken by society.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was talking about the overall tone of the article. It didn’t feel like an attack or judgement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.