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Fellow climbers say video footage shows Kristin Harila’s team walking over body of frostbitten man during record ascent

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it just shows how these expeditions exploit the global poor to death for just the simple pleasures of the relatively wealthy.

Can't this be said of pretty much any tourist attraction in an underdeveloped country? Even guided expeditions (on land or by water) can be dangerous to the guide. Heck, even in North America you have tours of glaciers, which can be quite dangerous. We just call it regular work, not exploitation.

Just a few years ago, several people died on one of these tours..

I also think it's unfair to paint these people as rich snobs just out to fulfill some "unnecessary journey". Life is about adventure, and some people do more than just walk around their own neighbourhood trails.

But this is all in the realm of subjectivity, and I don't think there's a right or wrong side to this argument.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, yes, I think it can be said of any tourist attraction if the attraction is something as dangerous as this to the locals. But, luckily, most tourist attractions are not as dangerous so it's unnecessary to draw a picture of a slippery slope based off it.

But I don't think it's unfair to paint them as going on an "unnecessary journey", especially if they're dragging along local people who are too poor to have other options for work and may die on said journey. There are plenty of hikes and other things throughout the world that will not involve other people dying for them. Again, if they want to hike Everest because they are tired of their neighborhood trails, then I am all for them going on their life adventure alone or with their friends and family. I couldn't care less. And these are not scientific or exploratory expeditions. Nothing is gained by society nor even by the individual by completing this—other than their own personal ambition or potential increase of wealth related to some althetic records or whatever, which is not worth other people potentially dying over. They may not be rich snobs to us, but relatively speaking they are rich snobs to those locals. This is exactly rich snob behavior at its purest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sherpas tend to be highly skilled, genetically adapted to altitude and mountains, and are extremely well paid (life-changing).

You keep painting this picture like they dragged some homeless local off the street and forced him up a mountain. That's not fair, and it undervalues the role of a sherpa.

There are plenty of hikes and other things throughout the world that will not involve other people dying for them.

Again, you can say this about any activity if you don't enjoy adventure. Another hike might put you in danger of wild animals, or a traffic accident if touring by bus.

Tragedy happens, and fortunately, as far as mountain climbing goes, it's quite rare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just say you don't give a shit about their lives and be fucking done with it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago