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Red Hat stops all upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd (hadess.net)

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These kind of changes are absolutely infuriating, and what's even worse, is that there's nothing we can do about it

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and what’s even worse, is that there’s nothing we can do about it

Look I know it's much easier said than done, but you can choose to walk away from IBM and Red Hat over this. If these changes start to lose money, they'll respond. Otherwise they'll see how much abuse their customers are willing to put up with and start doubling down.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you mean that Fedora users should question if they want to keep using this distro? Because I do use Fedora, and I understand I'm "beta-testing" an enterprise product, but yeah, for me this changes my "relationship" with Red Hat. Or what do you mean?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I just don't want folks thinking they're trapped, because that's when a vendor will really start putting the screws to you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't use Fedora or it's ilk for starters.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t use Fedora or it’s ilk for starters.

Fedora doesn't make Red Hat any money anyway. That's like saying to not use Debian because that could help Canonical's Snap vehicle Ubuntu. For now Fedora is mostly unaffected by Red Hat's weird moves. As a long time openSUSE user myself, I'm somewhat experienced in using a community distribution sponsored by a company that got worse and worse over the years and I definitively would not want to buy SUSE Linux Enterprise ever. Weirdly enough, openSUSE even got better as a consequence of some of SUSE's moves. Fewer employed upstream contributors led to the very automated QA and release processes of Tumbleweed, the rolling release distribution. If you have read about problems within openSUSE because of SUSE, it's about Leap, the LTS variant practically nobody uses because TW is just so stable and good. If Red Hat or SUSE ever go totally mad and torpedoed Fedora / openSUSE, both projects have enough safeguards in place to move the projects into independence with little interruption.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Fedora is how people get familiar, and stay familiar, with RedHat ways. Without it, when a company moves to Linux servers, there won't be as many Linux people pushing for RedHat. They will probably know, and thus push, Ubuntu.

I see these moves us knuckling down on the customers they have and ignoring winning new ones. It's very shortsighted.