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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1335364

Oh hey, we're back to where it all begun. Only took a couple million displaced.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The weirdest part here is the idea that Ukraine could ever become a part of NATO in the first place.

Is every single person in the Zelensky regime so utterly incompetent that they genuinely believed that would actually happen while they were in a civil war between 2014 and 2022, not to mention now when they are in an all out war with a literal nuclear power? I very much doubt that.

Something doesn't add up here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It is a weird way to backdoor discussion of ceding territory into it imo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Come on mate the answer to that is in literally the first sentence of the article.

"...[Jenssen] said publicly that Ukraine could give up territory to Russia in exchange for Nato membership and an end to the war."

If it's part of a peace deal to end the war, they're not at war any more when Ukraine joins NATO.