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this is practically a child’s view of the world. good guy vs bad guy. Russia = bad, NATO = good. plus, someone should tell her she has it completely backwards: ending russia is kinda natos entire thing

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you share more about your perspective concerning treatment of LGBTQ+ citizens between the two nations?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

both countries treat queer ppl horribly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How can you think that? Being queer in one nation is a crime punishable with jail time in the other nation being queer is totally legal, celebrated with parades, and same sex marriage is valid nation wide.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol which nation punishes being queer with jail time?

that was a rhetorical question. like i said, both nations have horrible track records w respect to LGBTQ communities, but neither jails ppl for being queer. at least not anymore, amerika had anti-sodomy laws until 2003. Russia does not jail ppl for gay sex

also the pride parades in amerika have been completely co-opted by capitalism. cops are allowed and even praised at most pride events and many of these events exclude different parts of the queer community

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was thinking of Chechnya which doesn't represent the whole Russian Republic. I'll update my info there. None the less persecution is ongoing.

You are still arguing a losing point. USA legally protects LGBT status and same sex marriages. The anti sodomy laws were invalidated 20 years ago.

Russia constitutionally banned same sex unions in 2020. There are no special protections for LGBT citizens.

It's night and day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

if you are looking for a “night and day” comparison, compare either of these countries to Cuba, a country so legitimately dedicated to LGBTQ rights they amended their constitution to include them. the amerikan legal protections are flimsy and ineffective. i dont care abt being able to marry my partner as much as i care abt being denied health care, being assaulted or killed, and having our children taken away by the state. all of these acts of violence are permitted and perpetuated by the amerikan state.