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you asked for an ideal outcome. and that is a very practical outcome.
but fine, ill play ur game. a realistic and practical outcome that i prefer would be Russia preventing Ukraine from entering NATO, limiting the ability for the global empire to conquer everything
if Putin never invaded, Ukraine wouldn't be trying to join NATO
This is some strong "stop hitting yourself" energy
that’s funny bc this western source shows that in 2019, Ukraine amended their constitution to include a commitment to join NATO and the EU
Yeah, because in 2014, half their country was occupied by a foreign invader lol.
Oh no my neighbor is seeking alliances after I annexed their shit, how conniving of them!
this was 5 years later. Ukraine wouldnt need an alliance if they didnt consistently violate the Minsk agreements by bombing civilians in the DPR and LPR, giving Russia a reasonable casus belli
Time isn't linear silly
Proof?
Putin didn't even recognize DPR and LPR until the day before he invaded Ukraine. This is some concentrated revisionist history.
here is the info abt civilian bombing and here are some other war crimes.
recognizing the DPR and LPR would seriously escalate tensions between Russia and Ukraine/NATO. Russia did, however, maintain informal relations with them, including providing aid. DPR and LPR invited Russia to liberate them from Ukraine. you have no idea what revisionist means if you think thats what im doing here. Russia absolutely had a justified casus belli
That's why he did it the day before invading. Putin was hoping his separatists in DPR and LPR could weaken Ukraine without getting his hands dirty. When he saw that wasn't working, he got involved.
Yes, that's kinda what pro-Russian separatists are supposed to do. Next you'll tell me CPC members in Taiwan want one country, two systems.
Sorry I'm still not seeing it
Completely separate point since Taiwan is and has historically been a part of China (and OCTS is of course a product of the imperialist subjugation of/capitalist propaganda surrounding China and the reality of socialism being underdeveloped in the mainland).
What do you mean? Taiwan is a part of China. It's already one country
Oh boy can you start another dunk thread on this so I can flex my myopic, limited understanding of complex socio-political situations and make another fool of myself?
nobody should be getting as owned as you are twice in 24 hours, that's just cruel
Not a bad idea tbh, you're incredibly uninformed and that's what we thrive on.
You suffer so other people can learn
Gross self-deprication
No reason to, you haven't posted anything dunk-worthy with regards to Taiwan. I posted this thread to the dunk tank because I thought the callous disregard for human lives was dunk worthy, not because you didn't know enough about Ukraine or something.
Most of us here are westerners, we all se the same stories, we all know what we were told in school.
There's no shame in being misinformed, we all are - the shame is choosing to stay misinformed, when one is confronted with it. I try to read up on the takes that I disagree with, to see where they are coming from and wether I might be in the wrong.
This also generally seems to be the culture of hexbear, which is why users are constantly asking for sources - it's not to do some smug gotcha, but instead to do some investigation and possibly self-crit.
I am not super well-versed in Taiwan, so if you want to know a lot I would recommend searching thru this site. There are lot of good effortposts with first-hand sources. I know @[email protected] has posted a lot and knows a lot about China, so you could also look thru his account for good knowledge.
I will however just to be quick point out that the United States itself does not recognize Taiwan as a country - really no one does. They all recognise the one china policy.
https://files.catbox.moe/dmdkbs.mp4
Minor detail, but I think it was 6 days before the invasion.
split the difference, three days? He officially recognized LPR and DPR on 21 Feb and invaded Ukraine on 24 Feb
Ah, I thought he recognized them, declared their annexation three days later, and invaded three days after that.
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